Darth Plagueis In The Sequel Trilogy.

"You have the Force, apprentice, and the talent to lead. More, you have the bloodlust of a serial killer, though we need to hold that in reserve unless violence serves some extraordinary purpose. We are not butchers, Sidious, like some past Sith Lords. We are architects of the future."

Darth Plagueis the Wise.

 

I really love your passion for Snoke and Plaguies. However, this forum has 7, 344 members which is substantial but I feel would be very small sample of the Star Wars fans worldwide. Plus, out of the 7,344 members (not taking into consideration of those with multiple accounts) only 761 have been interested enough to vote in this thread. That equals to 10.36% of the members voting on this topic, not 58%. 58% just show those which have voted in this thread believe this theory. Naturally the majority voting in this thread are problem going to be someone who sees Snoke=Plaguies. It doesn't represent the majority of fans as a whole.

I liked the Plaguies novel and think he could be an interesting character for his own prequel standalone or another cannon book similar to what Thrawn received. But I just haven't seen anything concrete to make Snoke=Plagueis that isn't stretching pieces to fit into the puzzle Plaguies. Especially since PH (official LF Story Group member) has stated he isn't and that Plaggy wasn't even in Lucas' treatments. Don't think PH would smudge his reputation by point blank saying he wasn't if he was. If he was Plaggy, it would just be better to say nothing at all and let the fans continue.

 

Before Plagueis theory was "debunked" by Pablo wast majority was almost convinced Snoke is Plagueis, that includes not just this forum but observation on other forums and comments on You tube theory videos , as well as Quora and other portals I followed. In case of You tube Plagueis theory videos were seen in numbers of millions views, wast majority approving and liking.

That was all before Pablo Hodalgo "lost the game" as he said it (was forced to openly say Snoke is not Plagueis).

So ,Pablo debunked Plagueis in a moment theory became so widely approved and accepted , that refusing to oppenly debunk theory was in fact a confirmation of it! ,and his act of open denial indeed looks like damage control act..

Even if Snoke indeed has nothing to do with Plagueis, the reaction on Plagueis theory hype and necessity of open official denial gives a credit to the power of Plagueis theory.

Most recent example: this video that proves Plagueius could be alive has 100:1 ratio in favor of like.(despite Pablo Hidalgo sad otherwise).

 

Using your video example:
It has 146, 578 views.
Only 5,006 of those views even gave it a thumbs up or down
4,947 likes
59 dislikes

so, out of all of those views, only 3.37% gave it a thumbs up. 96.58% of the viewers didn't give a thumbs up or thumbs down.

I certainly don't call that a vast majority. The number of Views a video gets doesn't equal agreement. watched many but doesn't mean I agree with them. As I stated above, only 10% of the members here have voted on this thread. 58% of those votes agreed. But 58% of those 10% who voted only equals to about 6% of the total members (for this thread only).

If anything, to me, the data says the vast majority of the fans are indifferent to whether Snoke is Plaguies are not, Such as myself. We just want a good movie.

 

In any way I am sure Snoke as Plagueis would not be detrimental for Sequel trilogy. No way.

As Tashu says in Aftermath: Dark siders are like a plague in the bones of the galaxy and will return always. Which Snoke is, return of one same dark side villain type.
Unecessary move to make him something new, which in fact can't be new as it is the same old thing (as Maz Kanata Says darksiders are all the same).

Because of no Plagueis we will have either overcomplicated Snoke,or Snoke that will not be elaborated at all in the ST, in both cases not good.

 

I think we will learn more details about Snoke in the ST but not his whole backstory. We will get the details needed to move the plot along but Snoke isn't the main Antagonist or Protagonist. So I don't see them going to in-depth. Those details will be saved for the E.U. in my opinion.

 

But Snoke must be killed at the end. Or not?

Wouldn't it be strange to not know who was killed?

This is not Original trilogy which had many millenia old history. There was only 30 years between OT and ST, so Snoke is much more harder ( I think impossible) to be implanted as non-explained main villain, and as an Emperor derivate will indeed look cheap.

 

They may kill Snoke at the end or he may turn out to not be worth killing. Don't know that yet. But again, I don't see Snoke as the main villain/character. A villain or supporting villain but not main villain. Kylo is the main focus villain that is torn, in my own opinion. I feel we will learn more about Rey's backstory (She is a main character) than we will Snoke. We will learn more about where he came from in the E.U. after the ST is done. f they don't kill him, we may learn where he is going. Vader was the main villain in the OT and we didn't get much about Palpatine except in the EU until the PT. The OT did very well without all that knowledge. The ST will to as long as their is a good story.

 

Guy who ordered Starkiller salvo that killed 100 billion sentient beings not worth killing?
rrright...

But of course that Rey, and Kylo are main protagonists, just as Luke, Lea, Han were in OT.

But who should they fight if main villain is not even "worth to be killed"?

Was Palpatine main character of Star wars or supporting one?

He was supporting, but a base for the story.

Imagine Original Star Wars just as they were in every detail, except in one, that Palpatine was not a Dark side Lord but a liar who falsely claimed his powers?
No Star Wars. Ok I am wrong, there will be Star Wars, a bad Star Wars, and no worth for New trilogy for sure.

 

I think the main purpose of the resistance is finish eradicating the remnants of the Empire, the first order, not necessarily going after one person in particular. They probably learned from last time that cutting of the Head doesn't necessarily mean the body will die. In all honesty, I think Snoke will probably end up being killed in the end. But he doesn't have to. There are many avenues for who Snoke is as presented on this board. If he turns out to be the First Jedi or something like that, he could be redeemed. Prooobabbbly NOT, but just an example as to a reason as to why he doesn't have to be killed. I'm really interested in seeing how he plays out and who he might be. I just trying to get one mindset as to who or what he has to be. I think that gives the movies a higher chance to be a let down for someone when you already have a specific visions of what it has to be in order for it to be a GOOD movie.

For me, Palpatine was a supporting character in the OT and Certainly a main character in the PT. In the OT, he never has a scene to himself. He only there when Vader or Vader and Luke is present. I've always felt his purpose was to provide a means for Vader's redemption. Could there have been another character that was provided to give Vader a chance of redemption, certainly. If there had been, we wouldn't know the difference today. It would just be Star Wars. Actually, I think Palpatine was originally just supposed to be a politician and later changed to a Sith Lord over Vader. Was it the right decision. I definitely think so.

 

Where's the great mystery of Snoke is new?

#PlagueisConfirmed

 

They don't have to continually say, he's a new character.

#PlagueisNOTConfirmed

 

#PlagueisConfirmed

 

"where's the great mystery if Snoke is new?"

uhh, perhaps in finding out who the hell he is?

what are you even on about? lol

if he turned out to be Plagz there wouldn't be much of a mystery, would there?

 

#PlaguiesISdead

 

It would be cool to see Darth Plagueis I really want to see him in a movie

 

I'M BACK.

it's definitely plagueis

 

@ITG and I are with you.

 

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