SPOILER Rebel Assault review/discussion

@7:25 "Alright. Well, thanks, Pablem."

As for the episode, I feel the same-ish about most of you about Hera vs Rhuk. I am already over it though since it was just a sideshow leading to her being captured anyways. I get the feeling that Kanan is setting us up for a sacrifice and it is going to be heart-wrenching.

 

That would be awesome and give us a complete full circle saying that he killed all the remaining jedi except for Yoda and Obi. I don't considered Ashoka to be a jedi. I see her just a powerful force user that uses her power of the greater good.

Interesting. Like I said in my original post, I think they wolves revealed to Kanan or he at least have a feeling that he may die, knowing that there is a bigger picture that has yet to come. I feel like that he came to terms with his fate. His voice at the end of the episode had a weird demeanor to it that I haven't seen in other episodes. That's what I got out of it anyway.

 

Exactly! As one friend mentioned: both Rogue One and Forces of Destiny were too spoilery regarding the fate of Hera.

I daresay that at least Rogue One gave us a reasonable doubt about her survival: some wondered if that General Syndulla was her father and the Ghost could have been piloted by someone else. But Forces of Destiny showed her in Endor so there you go: she survives.

Though what she endures after being captured is going to be interesting. If she is tortured, if Kanan sacrifices himself to save her (bringing again the dilemma of love vs duty he was subtly hinting at her during the previous episodes) I am interested on seeing how is that affecting her. Perhaps that had an impact on her and we will find out more on what she was doing during the time our Big Three took the main stage in the Rebellion.

Yesterday there was a discussion about it. Maybe the Loth-wolves are FS entities like the Bendu who want their planet to be left alone.

She said it herself: "I am no Jedi."

 

So, now we are on a hiatus... Is the 3 listed episodes the only ones left?

 

That is true. I made that statement because I still read/hear people reference her as a "grey" jedi which she isn't since he no longer considered her self a jedi. Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions

 

I agree with the whole kanan sacrificing himself thing. I think he does it while saving Hera and destroying the Tie defender factory. Since there is no tie defenders in the OT the factory has to go or else the empire would have deployed them all over ( them being far better then ties, xwing ect.) but I'm trilled they brought them in to cannon since tie-figther is my favorite Star wars game.
I also agree with others in this thread that Hera was to strong in the hand to hand combat with ruck. In the Thrawn trilogy he is a match for even luke so Hera going nose to nose with him deminis his character. ( after all he was the one who killed Thrawn in the Thrawn trilogy ..... ups spoilers )

 

I am already crying if we get something like this with Hera and Kanan:

 

That is good to know lol. I am not ready to only have 3 episodes left.

 

Quite a way for it to end mid-season.

 

The scene where Hera tells Mart and Chopper to leave reminded me of the scene in Season 1 (in Call to Action) when Kanan gets captured at the communications tower.

 

I enjoyed this episode a lot, as I have the entire season, with the slight exception of the Mando episodes at the beginning.


It’s funny that many have been clamoring for X-Wings in Rebels, and when we finally got them, they went out in a blaze of glory rather quickly. But it was great nonetheless.


I’m glad they are finally giving Hera her due. She is a great character. They have always danced around how tough of an operative she is, in addition to being a good pilot, but the finally showed it full on. At the same time, I like that she has not always won or saved the day. In the previous episode she is crash-landing back from a mission that failed, in the beginning of this episode her attack fails, and ultimately, she fails to escape and is captured. I love that they are showing that even a strong character doesn’t win everything.


The PING of Hera’s blaster is one of my favorite Star Wars sound effects, btw. Love it intermingled with the other blaster sounds.


After thinking about it a bit, I do not agree with the thought that Hera was too strong against Rhuk. Initially I too was bothered by him not being the “ultimate” assassin, but then I realized that is because I had watched too much mediocre storytelling …where the bad guy is way overpowered, and “how can the heroes ever hope to beat him”…and in the end some deus ex machina event happens instead of the good guy actually killing the baddie (because he was too overpowered). Instead, these fights felt believable - they had some weight. There was an initial attack, Hera fought him off some, but only got away with the help of Chopper, and then ran. Rhuk later caught up with her, she held her own at times, but ultimately Rhuk acquired his target. In both fights Rhuk beat Hera 1-on-1. I’m not sure how that is undermining his character. He won, but it wasn’t easy – that’s how I want stories to be told, instead of the bad guys wining easily early, and then the good guys somehow, against ALL odds get lucky in the end.


I compare the fight with Rhuk to the space battle with the TIE Defender – the Defender is a formidable weapon, but can be fought. I never really liked the look and feel of the Defender previously, but boy id I like how they handled it in this show.

I'm glad someone else brought up this comparison, where Kanan was captured allowing the others to get away, and the group deciding to go rescue him. In that we had a good scene with Tarkin vs Kanan. I just remember those episodes being well done, and hope the resolution of this situation to be the same.


I am not too concerned about how this show will tie into Rogue One. At this point it does not appear that the Battle of Scarriff will be on Rebels, which is actually okay with me…I’ve already seen it. I think it would be better to have the probable overall failure at Lothal (from a Rebel Alliance standpoint) flesh out why the Rebels are so reluctant in R1, as PrincessLeiaCB3 says.


I was a bit bothered by how much the said “General” Syndulla – talk about hitting us over the head with it. I did like the touch of Thrawn calling her Captain, since he would not know. I presume the promotion was due to her taking such a stand in the previous episode against the leaders of the alliance. They promoted her to general to lead this attack, since she is the one who made it happen.

Thanks for pointing this out - when I watched it I considered turning on the CC, wondering if they had had flipped the word, but I guess I got lazy. Kinda funny that the first time many who didn't have the CC on assumed DOOM, and then the second time assumed DUME, when it was the opposite.

Now we wait...

 

I know the first three episodes of the second part of the season have been given names (Allegiance, One Giant Step Ahead, Call of the Specter), but is anything known about their airing dates? January? Previous seasons have returned from their mid-season break quite quickly, but I do not know whether this will be the case this year too. There are only seven episodes left.

 

Per https://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=seasonall&id=283468&lid=7
Season 1 came back on Jan 5
Season 2 on Jan 20
Season 3 on Jan 7
Season 4 has not announced airdates yet

 

i might have a slightly different take on this episode than most. First I loved the episode, I like that we know Hera lives, and Chopper, but we don't know how. Also, I don't believe the Tie Defenders are in the OT, not that I recall anyway. So, we also know they stop production of the defenders, but most likely do not free Lothal.

The thing that is important where I might disagree with others, is that Kanaan is following his heart. He is going to save Hera, when he is interrupted by the wolf. Regardless of Dume or Doom and in which order, Kanaan stops, listens to the wolf, and never completes his task of going to save Hera. The episode ends with him taking the boy back to the rebel base camp.

So there is something going on with the force, and the force is sending a message to Kanaan, that they cannot deliver to Ezra who is from there. I think he dies, but he dies for the force, doing whatever the wolf needs him to do. He is a heroic character , and like Obi Wan, Quigon, and many others. He will die sacrificing himself to the will of the force. He will take the Jedi path of Caleb Dume, not the path of Kanaan, the rebel or scoundrel character he became.

Now Ezra is a mystery here. I can see the failure, and potential abandonment by the alliance as being a problem for him as a character should he live. If the people of Lothal are destroyed Ezra would be very upset.

there is one other thing that perhaps could happen. In the last season, Ezra knows about what destroys the emperor, presumably he knows about Luke. If Thrawn were to somehow find out about Ezra's vision, Kanaan must, I mean must do whatever they can to stop thrawn from relaying that message to the emperor. If that were to happen, there would not be a greater end for these characters than this. To die in essence saving Luke who does not even know who they are.

 

THIS!!

 

Just a reply to @PrincessLeiaCB3 in regards to a Hear-centric novel regarding her reminiscing on the Ghost crew and the time between R1 and ROTJ, it would be interesting to see what the come up with (same with Thrawn)