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SPECULATION The Official Rey's Parents in Ep. IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by master_shaitan, Jan 3, 2018.

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Who are Rey's parents?

  1. A couple of drunkards lying dead in a Jakku grave.

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  2. Nobodies...but not dead drunkards.

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  3. People with/from a Force sensitive background.

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  4. The Kenobi's...duh!

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  5. Luke Skywalker and his child bride Aya.

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  6. Mr & Mrs Sheev Palpatine.

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  7. The Force!

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  8. The So...the Sol...I can't say it..ok ok...The Solo's! *scoffs*

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  9. Plagueis/The Prime Jedi/Snoke

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  10. Other

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    Like Han, she went back to the only thing she was any good at. She chose to lead the Resistance instead of rescuing her son. This is the same character that put aside her obligations to the Rebellion so she could rescue her boyfriend.
    Han chose a life of crime instead of rescuing his son. This is the same Han who gladly marched into the certain death of a Hoth night to rescue his buddy, Luke.

    The Han and Leia from the OT would have risked everything to save a friend, let alone their own child. He wasn’t dead. He joined a cult. They would have either got him back or died trying. What did they do about it though? Ostensibly, nothing. They apparently wrote him off and ran away in different directions. It doesn’t make a whole heck of a lot of sense to me, but that’s the pill TFA asked me to swallow and so be it.
    I agree. Would the Luke we knew from ROTJ really throw in the towel and not try to redeem is nephew? Not even once? Not likely. But that’s the premise. He was so devastated and ashamed that he felt any further action from him would only make matters worse. That Ben, and everyone else, was better off without him.
    Well, that’s certainly an unquantifiable metric, yeah? 53 is too young, for someone who’s encountered more hardships than most could imagine, to be jaded and resigned?

    Mostly, I feel the issue some people have with the depiction is that they were expecting an echo of the Luke/Yoda relationship from ESB. A master/student bond where Luke had transitioned to the state of wizened sage - imparting deep secrets of the Force to his young apprentice. What I think RJ opted for instead though was a reflection of the Luke/Vader relationship from ROTJ. The optimistic youth seeing a glimmer of hope in the otherwise grim elder’s facade.

    The looming threat over Luke in the OT was his possible turn to the darkside. That he would follow in his father’s corrupted footsteps and become another Vader. While that wasn’t strictly the case, it does in part play out . . . from a certain point of view. Just as Anakin had turned his back on what he believed in and denied whatever part of himself may still be good, Luke was encountering a similar crisis of faith. He’d lost his hope and convinced himself of the futility of it all. Both father and son had found themselves in a dark place believing redemption was beyond their reach and discovering it in an unlikely place.

    But maybe I’m just seeing connections that I want to be there though.
     
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    This is true. I think we are supposed to accept that time and experience have changed these people, and that they need to come back to where they were with the help of a new generation.

    But that’s exactly what happened. Luke learnt his final lesson, it just took a whole film for him to reach that point. It was part of Rey’s story, she was the unexpected visitor that challenged him and made him come to his senses. That’s one of the reasons why she’s the heroine of this story.
     
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    It has been recently stated in an interview that JJ Abrams had different plans for Rey’s parents.
    This gives me the idea that perhaps he will alter what was said in TLJ without contradicting it completely. For example, Rey’s parents may very well have been drunks buried in a pauper’s grave on Jakku... but perhaps they were honorable at one time. What if her Uncle and aunt are still alive? There’s so much Abrams can do.
    Personally, I was disappointed to learn that Rey was a “nobody.” I understand that Disney wants to push the idea that “anyone can be special without having a royal bloodline,” (and there’s nothing wrong with that,) but I like following the bloodline. I like watching the prequels and thinking “Oh, she’s her mother” or “he’s related to him..” I think that’s why so many Americans enjoy following the British royalty. It makes us feel we’re part of a larger family with a lineage that goes back far...
     
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    More than anything, I love how that premise further positions her as the antithesis to Kylo. Equal, but opposite. He was born the son of living legends. Practical royalty. Afforded every opportunity and taught to hone his ability by the most knowledgeable instructor there was. And despite all that, he chose the darkness. Rey inherited nothing. She has no family. No privilege. No one to guide her. She doesn’t have anything except every reason to embrace that same darkness, but doesn’t.

    The two are negative reflections of each other. For me, pulling out some long lost lineage for her now would only cheapen that. But that’s just me.
     
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    Now that you mention this, there could be some irony in it.

    What if her parents were officers of the Empire, had nothing after the Battle of Jakku and was left there. Turned into drunks and solid the only thing they had, their daughter, for a ship to get off Jakku.

    The irony would come in with the leader of the FO being child of rebellion heroes and the new savior of the galaxy is a child of the Empire.
     
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    This is something I always wanted.

    Kylo was born by the light and good => Han and Leia, then he turned to the dark side
    Rey was born by the dark and evil => Either her parents were dark siders or people of the Empire/FO

    Something like that is even depicted in the movies itself:

    Kylo enters from the light to a darker place:
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    Rey leaves the darkness of the Stardestroyer and goes into the light:
    THE_FORCE_AWAKENS.mp4.00_11_16_22.Standbild003.jpg
     
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    @master_shaitan and i have been saying this since TFA came out. i think there'd be no point revealing that now, unfortunately.
    it would have had much more impact if Ren Ben had at least said they were drunk imperial nobodies.

    now i hope they just let it rest. it's distracting and otherwise would take time from more important things in the story.
    TLJ was all about their solo explorations, discoveries, and journeys. now they need to come together.
     
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    Would it, though? Isn't being sold by your own parents and being "brought up" by Unkar Plutt, the most unloving creature in the whole galaxy, "Dark Side" enough? They were evil people.Them being pro- or anti-Empire wouldn't really change anything, especially in a film about one of the greatest Rebellion's heroes failure to be a good parent.
     
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    Though I understand the idea of wanting of Rey's parents being drunk imperial nobodies, I would have preferred them to be Rebelscum, for one thing, it would have perfectly fit the narrative of TFA with Ren telling Rey that her friends are nothing but thieves, traitors and murderers and for another, I am always interested in a more nuanced storytelling.
     
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    but that's what i mean: it doesn't really add anything at this point going forward, so if it was the truth, they should have just got it all out. for that reason i doubt her parents had any particular affiliation at all. and it still works. Ben's parents were still heroes (one a Leader and Princess, the other a scoundrel with a good heart). so there doesn't really need to be exact parity.

    i liked the idea that they might be imperials on the run from the new republic. to me, that would have provided more nuance because then it's the new republic that caused them to be in straits and desperate, perhaps. that was the narrative i thought could be most "grey". Rey would feel conflict because if it hadn't been for the new republic, she might have had a different and better life growing up.

    your idea works too, though, with rebelscum not being good people even though they won the war, etc. just less layers to blame there perhaps.
     
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    Some part of me is still holding the breath that we'll get something like that with Hux's mother. Imo it makes a lot of sense, because why else would Poe joke about that he has a message for Hux and it is about his mom!? : p
     
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    how do we know Hux and Rey aren't siblings? XD
    i guess they'd have to be half-siblings.

    hey! maybe Hux's mother came to Jakku looking for Brendol to take back her son ~ and got stranded there.
    sure! this could work! : o O

    the best part of this is that Hux is the one person whose parent was desperately trying to find him.
    okay, wait, that's just sad. : o (
     
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    It also fits for scavenger parents. Scavengers are pretty much thieves. The parents betrayed her and pretty much left her to die => traitors and murderers.

    In the end it doesn't really matter because it doesn't matter for Rey herself anymore.
     
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    No, that's not was going for XD I just meant by that, that Hux's mother is probably with the Resistance (now that the New Republic is no more).
     
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    hahaha ~ no, i know. i was just letting my mind wander.
    though Arkanis is probably now under FO rule, don't you think?
    it was an imperial planet, no? it would be kinda interesting to know whatever became of her.
    we don't even know what happened to Maratelle ~ it seems like Brendol just ditched her. XD
     
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    Isn’t he just talking about Finn with that statement though?
     
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    I think he's talking about
    - Han Solo (thief)
    - Finn (traitor)
    - the Resistance (murderers)
     
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    Technically, Finn would be all three of those things, yeah? He betrayed the FO, stole a TIE fighter, and mowed down a bunch of people while doing it. Along with Han, FN-2187 is the only one he knew for sure had actually been with Rey. Meh, just my take.

    Well, whoever he’s referring to, the statement was always comically hypocritical to me. Isn’t this the same guy that showed up to an old friend’s home and murdered him because he didn’t’ have the thing he was there to steal? What was the color of that kettle again, pot? :D
     
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    That seems to be kind of his thing, doesn't it?
     
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    Ben had some lessons of another Ben.
    [​IMG]
     
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