Am I the Only Who Likes Dooku more Than Maul out of the prequel Villains?

I like both. So nope. I like to see a movie about DP, EP Dooku and Maul that does not include Anakin, OB1 etc...

 

Dooku is great, a more developed personality than Maul and Christopher Lee is a great actor. So yeah I like him more than Maul, but what I like is how distinctly different each of them are and yet they are both great villains.

 

I wish George Lucas would have merged these two characters. The PT needed an overall villain to fight against...

 

Count Dooku isn't even that villainous, like... at all. He's more of a misguided fool/pawn than he is an actual villain, especially if only considering his appearance in AOTC. I am glad he was developed more in TCW series, but overall he's still boring AF in almost every aspect. He's definitely not scary, by any means. Though I do appreciate what George Lucas was doing by giving us an 'evil' version of Obi-Wan Kenobi, so to speak... which is definitely an idea that has potential. Unfortunately, even that was poorly executed and fell rather flat. He was pretty much just a poster boy for the Separatist movement. Story-wise, he was also severely lacking any real emotional connection to the other characters he fought. Disappointments, indeed.

No big reveal with him either, and he felt like a total last minute addition that served only as filler. Almost like a vain attempt by Lucas to give the older fans something he thought they would like and wouldn't give him crap for, since at the time they were giving him crap for just about every choice he had made regarding the prequels. The best thing about his character was the actor who portrayed him, Christopher Lee did a great job!


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-SOAS

 

To many villains in the PT was one of the problems to me. I sense that we don't have a real villain to cheers for, or for caring enough about him. We have Vader in the OT and Kylo in the ST, but in the prequels they are too many: Maul, Dooku and Grievous.
I wish they had use Maul in all three movies.

 

Yep. His story was more compelling. I only wish they explored it more. I loved the scene with him and obi wan. Also Christopher Lee playing a rich Sith Lord is pretty much the best thing ever. I especially feel confident in this answer now that Maul is a Shakespeare in the park cartoon villain.

 

I like Ray Park, but I've always felt that Darth Maul was an overrated character. I thought he played too much in the "cool factor". Dooku, being a former Jedi, was more interesting to me. And I could never see Maul as the type to lead the Separatists on Palpatine's behalf. Like in "Solo", he would need someone to be his public face.

Palpatine and Vader were barely explored in the Original Trilogy. So, in Dooku's case, it seems Lucasfilm had depended upon "The Clone Wars" and the EU novels to explore his character more.

 

I don't see it as a question of which one is better. They serve two different functions at different points in the story. Maul is pretty much just a heartless monster, and he is the perfect character for that position. Dooku is both a warrior and also a political figure who uses his personality to persuade people to join the separatists - and he is the perfect character for that.

 

I liked Dooku more then Darth Maul (I’m a big Christopher Lee fan). I love the interrogation scene with Dooku/Obiwan (which was a reshoot and wasn’t in the original script).

Although it would have been much cooler if Dooku was in TPM sitting on the council, so you could see the evolution of a fallen Jedi. But I understand Lucas wanted him to be mysterious in AOTC.

 

If you exclude the Clone Wars (and Rebels), than Dooku is a better villain then Maul. PT Maul is like OT Bobba Fett - a cool-looking video game boss for the heroes to beat, while Dooku is an actual character with lines. But the animated shows developed Maul so well, that in the overall canon he is waay more interesting and fun than Dooku (or Bobba Fett).

 

I think he was simply Palpatine's hired thug. He never struck me as the type to serve as his master's political or military right hand man.

 

Tough choice here. As a fan of Christopher Lee I thought his performance was great and gave gravitas to the role. Ray Park brought such an awesome physicality to Maul that was just too cool to witness on screen. For me it's a draw.

 

It's not a draw to me. I think the "cool factor" is vastly overrated. And for me, that is all Maul has going for him, aside from atheticism. But if many of you think that's so important then . . .

 

Dooku and Maul both brought very different things to the table. If we're talking exclusively about the films and not any animation? Maul was more of a limited character. He looked scary and menacing. And his fighting style was amazing to behold. But he wasn't developed as a character.

Dooku had the benefit of *SOME* character development in AOTC. His link to Qui-Gon Jinn was important in him attempting to establish a rapport with Obi-Wan Kenobi. And he had some backstory with Yoda as well. When you add in his status as an enigmatic Separatist leader who is also a Sith? It made him a much more complex character.

HOWEVER....

I do see a lost opportunity with how this story line played out. First, it seems that Qui-Gon Jinn may have played a more pivotal role in the overall saga than people realized as it pertains to the Jedi prophecy of the Chose One as well as his discovery of the ability to retain ones identity in the Force after death. There's also the matter of his disillusionment with the Jedi Order and how it had become so intertwined with the Galactic Senate. And of course, Qui-Gon's Jedi master was Dooku. Which leads to my most significant point:

What if Dooku had been on the Jedi Councilin EPISODE I? The added dimension of potential conflict between Masters on the Jedi Council regarding Anakin could have added more intrigue regarding whether or not Anakin should be trained. And it might have further illustrated how Qui-Gon viewed the nature of the Force differently from much of the Jedi Order. There might also have been the possibility of laying the groundwork for Dooku leaving the Jedi Order because of his disillusionment and leanings toward the Dark Side. Could it have been done? Possibly. But then the movie was really more about Anakin than Dooku's fall to the Dark Side, and it could have taken the movie in unwanted directions if it was not done in a subtle fashion.

...but this might have required a degree of foresight that George Lucas did not have as he laid out the stories for TPM and AOTC in a way that would involve writing all three PT movies as three chapters of a single piece of work.

 

Yes even i like Dooku more than Vader and Sheev
Kylo would dream of having the same presence and power that Dooku had

 

Dooku is a vastly underrated character. He's a great villain because, in many ways, he's in the right. The Jedi are compromised. The Republic is deceived. But instead of using this knowledge to save others, he uses it to gain power.

I really want his backstory, training Qui-Gon and leaving the Jedi and all that. So much great stuff to explore.

 

Hmm, here's a hot take:

In my opinion, The Clone Wars animation did a great job of fleshing out pretty much every single character from that era except Dooku.

Not that he's necessarily bad in it, but I think part of the reason people in this thread think Dooku is boring is because he just wasn't utilized as well as a villain in that show. While Grievous acts as the show's over the top brawler (and sometimes almost a horrifying monsterand Maul re-enters as a scheming mastermind, Dooku rarely really shines much. The mission where he's captured by Hondo is pretty fun, but that's one of the few times he stands out to me. He's just usually just a typical mustache-twirling villain.

As a character though, Dooku has so much potential, and I didn't realize it until recently. While rewatching AotC last year, I realized how Dooku had conviction in his beliefs, and in some ways he was actually right. The Jedi and Republic were corrupted. Dooku, in throwing away his entire life as a Jedi, used his platform as a count to do what he believed was right.

Granted, things get a little fuzzy, and at some point my interpretation probably goes against what Lucas intended, but I would've loved to see a Dooku who was totally unaware of the sith interference. Probably even one who wielded his original colored lightsaber and didn't use the Dark side (at least, consciously). Star Wars' Ozymandias from Watchmen, in a way.

I still like Dooku, and Christopher Lee's intensity with the character's signature style mesh really well. I just feel like, if he'd been treated with just a bit more care across his media, he could've really stood out more.

 

He is skilled in combat & knowledge. Shame he didn't see his fate allying with Sidious.

 

I’ve been appreciating his character more recently. I love how in the films and especially in TCW he had such a formal (yet casual in a way) demeanor, but with something darker lurking underneath. I’d like to see him developed/utilized more in books and comics at some point. His Age of Republic comic was great and I’d like to see more content like it.

As far as comparing him to Maul, that’s like comparing Vader to Tarkin or Jabba in my eyes. They served completely different roles in the movies, despite both of them arguably fighting for the same goal.