Mortis is Canon, thoughts?

So the difference I spot between the Son and the Inquisitor is mainly those cylindars in place of ears the Inquisitor has. I wonder what their purpose is. Also, Anakin did "tame" the Son in the Mortis arc. Perhaps after Anakin became Vader, he went back and persuaded (a term I use lightly) the Son to join his cause. Other differences - Inquisitor has yellow (Sith) eyes (the Son's were red), and those vertical gray lines on his head that many attribute to another species - (I forget the species). And Freddie Prinze Jr. (Kanan) also said this week that the Inquisitor was in TCW.

Edit: I want to add the Seventh Sister looks a lot like Barriss Ofee.

 

Well,I don't think he's The Son. The Son was more of a mythological creature of the Force than he was a Pau'an. Also, Mortis kinda plays out within a Force dream that proved to a degree why Anakin had the destiny of being the chosen one, but I can see why that seems more of a Yoda-esque story.

 

I really, really hope not to see Abeloth

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Filoni said he appears but I think it was in the unfinished episode "death on upatu"

 

Abeloth is non-canon, thankfully

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Might be the guy who worked with the Republic, but the Grand Inquisitor seems fairly young too.

 

I'm grateful for that

 

Me too. The Abeloth books completely screwed up what was intended with Mortis.

 

I wasn't sure what came first,.. And why they would tie it in, especially if cw was retcon

 

TCW came first and the Mortis episodes didn't retcon anything. Mortis is like the Dagobah cave in that it gives people visions. The Father, Daughter, and Son are all part of the vision, not beings that actually existed. The Abeloth books made it seem like Father, Daughter, and Son actually existed.

 

Probably why there is a whole group dedicated to explaining and maintaining Star Wars canon now. Pretty happy about it too, seeing the very good results so far.

 

The force should stay mysterious and unexplained. We have religion, and you don't see people spending a ton of time explaining God with science, JT should staybthe same way with the force. I thought the arc was weird. And I had trouble grasping it at first. But the clone wars were perfect and I have no problems with the series as a whole.

 

It is and I had a thread of Mortis and TFA. here is the pictures of my theory but its just what I think. Rey's Vision and TCW "Ghost of Mortis" screen shots...
This is my theory between the planets
TCW/Rey's Vision:
1. Temple building in the background similar
2. Rainy climate mud avast
3. Anakin was supposed to take over the Father to balance the force. Saw his vision of Ep. 3 but got it erased.
4. Either is a past vision with Luke or could be that Rey might be the "chosen one" to set balance to the force (her force vision)
5. The jedi temple in coruscant has similar structure but the structures/pillars on the sides are to far apart when the vision/TCW temple are closer.
6. Either this is past or future vision cause Kylo is with the KOR and has the same fit as TFA. stories of him having a new mask is out there, IDT he should change his mask but IDK.
7. Them being on that planet is what kinda confuses me and lead me to think its not Mortis on in her vision. To have KOR and Luke and maybe Rey(her vision) on this planet suggest that they all fell into the lil paradox like they did in TCW. IDK.

 

I didn't watch much of TCW except Mortis trilogy...and that aspect of the Force is something I like best in all SW....
The Son is sooooo mizunderztood...
I can see the postulates behind Force wielders incorpirating into the ST storyline with all the gray Jedi stuff I think it is headed....
Old exculusive ways of the Sith and the Jedi don't work....absolutes are a dangerous things indeed...cloud your judgement and true view of the Force....

Allways liked the line I am so much more...and so are you...

It would be nice if Kylo is somehow incarnate of the Son and Rey of the Daughter....who can be the Father then....hmmmmm...Luke or Snoke? Lol

 

As much as I want this to be true, I highly doubt that is the case. My mind would explode if we saw Mortis in live action but I am not sure how general public would feel about it. Disney might be too afraid to experiment like that. ;/

 

Never really understood why this story arc was so "controversial" to the fandom.

Star Wars has a metaphysical component to it in the very nature of the force,the notion that there'd be creatures/beings that were even more powerful in the force than the average living organism known to the broader galaxy is not a long bow to draw.

The Jedi and Sith in terms of their history and time in the galaxy is not as old as the galaxy itself so there'd be many other manifestations of the force that were unknown.

From a storytelling perspective this is a good creative avenue IMO.

 

Rumored sequence from Episode 8- I don't believe it's true, but I'm putting it in spoilers just in case:

Spoiler: EPISODE 8 RUMORS

Despite the fact that this episode arc in TCW does feel kind of Star Trek-ky (which I appreciated, interesting shift in tone), it also has some really interesting implications for The Force, and expands on the lore a lot!

I don't think Father/Son/Daughter were meant to be godlike- well not in the spiritualistic way that most major religions view gods, as omnipotent, omnipresent beings. Rather, I'd say they're almost more Lovecraftian beings- extremely powerful beings who basically serve to show that humanity is just a link on the food chain in the galaxy rather than being the apex beings. Of course, it comes with a Star Wars twist in that they're also extremely potent in force use.

Given the above rumors about Ep8, and the fact that Mortis is canon, I wonder what part the Family might have had in the origins of the Jedi.


Overall, Mortis doesn't bother me. It's a little weird that such an incredibly spiritual event was never really mentioned much again afterward. You'd think that they'd speak on it again- maybe not in everyday conversation, but even on Mustafar or something, you'd think Obi Wan would've brought it up as a way of trying to make Anakin see the evil of the dark side.

Not that I'm complaining or anything, what's done is done. I just think it'd be cool if the Spoiler section is true, and the Mortis stuff gets a little bit of a confirmation.

 

By far the most informative, and descriptive justification and explanation of this arc. I can empathize and rest easy accepting these episodes as canon by introducing the probability of interdimensional travel. Thank you.

 

Anybody noticed the similarities between certain scenes in TLJ and the mortis arc episodes ? It’s not just the famous TLJ poster with Luke, Kylo and Rey . Are they incarnations of the father, son and daughter ?

 

I would like this post if I could, but I'm still below the minimum threshold to to so! I love deep dives like this!

 

Cool, I have to say. I did not. I know the rumor is that RJ did watch the Mortis Arc, but I myself didn't catch that.

 

I just rewatched the Morris arc in anticipation of Episode IX and for some reason I was really struck by the multiple references to the larger universe. Most canon discussions of the Force refer to its working in the galaxy, but in these episodes both the Father and Qui Gon refer to its workings across the Universe, which would conceivably implicate a certain Milky Way Galaxy.