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Jar Jar Binks- Why is he so hated?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by yaqngie, Jun 25, 2017.

  1. Jayson

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    lol!
    See...this is what happens when you type while talking kids!

    I meant Lloyd Christmas, Jim Carry's character.

    Christopher Lloyd...sheesus!

    Too many Lloyds!

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    What is there to be said that hasn't been said already? fans thought he was childish and annoying and well the media thought he was a racist stereotype. I was born in the early 90s so i grew up with the prequels and honestly i have never had a problem with Jar Jar every generation has it's own cringe within each trilogy the OT had the ewoks the PT had Jar Jar and the Disney trilogy has Rose tico porgs and holdo.
     
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    Well said. Each generation had has its cringe. Sums up all the disliking of certain star wars aspects from many people :)
     
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    Unfortunately, jar jar does more in the story than Anakin and obi wan combined
     
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    No, rip, does he really? I doubt that xD
     
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    Well, obi wan does nothing except beat maul, and if he loses to maul, but everybody else succeeds, then maul just gets killed by a bunch of angry Naboo citizens who just came back from a successful mission. So let’s see what jar jar does.
    First, if they don’t find him, they can’t get into Otoh Gunga, and they can’t get to Padme, so they lose that way.
    If they try to sneak into Otoh Gunga, then they most likely will be caught. And if they steal a sub, jar jar isn’t there to tell them where to go.
    Additionally, it could be argued that without Qui Gon bringing Jar Jar along, then Padme might not have trusted the gungans if she doesn’t get to know jar jar, so they don’t ally with the gungans and they lose.

    What does Anakin do?
    Two major things- Destroying the control center, and winning the pod race. However, let it be known that if jar jar had not been a clumsy oaf and pissed off sebulba, then they would have never met Anakin. If Anakin did not win the race, they don’t win the engine or Anakin. However, Qui-Gon tried to mind trick watto and then cheated with the dice, so if Anakin had lost, qui gon might have just overpowered watto, taken the engine and Anakin, and then flown away.
    For destroying the control center, while this was important, Jar jar also has other story ending things if he isn’t around. Also, we need jar jar to do it, because any other gungan would not trust qui gon, and they would not be as stupid and clumsy as jar jar to piss of sebulba. Anakin doesn’t have this with the control ship. It didn’t take any skill. He just flew in and blew things up. Any other pilot with more training would have done better or the same, even with the force on Anakin’s side. So unfortunately, Jar Jar is very important to the story. And let’s not forget how in ROTS, he wants to be intelligent, so he goes “okie day, supreme powers for chancellor!” and we all know how that turned out. And finally, in those first clone wars episodes, Padme would not have survived if not for jar jar’s random bantha poodoo. So Luke and Leia aren’t born. YAYYy
     
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    Oh you meant in TPM. I thought you meant in the whole saga. Lol. Anyway, yeah I am still 50/50 with that. :)
     
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    I think, for a lot of people watching The Phantom Menace for the first time, Jar Jar represented a stark contrast to everything in the Original Trilogy, and it was a very abrupt departure from that type of film. For many, I think Jar Jar’s mere existence sort of embodies how the prequels were not intended to be similar films to the Original Trilogy. Now, regardless of whether any character like Jar Jar was included in the final version of that film or not, The Phantom Menace was always intended to be a very different film from what the previous three were, and I think fans would’ve been critical of that difference regardless. But Jar Jar’s characterization sort of delivered the final blow in many fans’ eyes.

    Let’s face it –– after 40+ years, there are still grown adults complaining about Star Wars who refuse to put aside their own self-entitlement and accept that these films are for kids. Obviously, at the time, no one could’ve really predicted that kind of response because the Original Trilogy was so well-received, but in retrospect, the type of behavior some fans exhibited toward Jar Jar –– and unfortunately, Ahmed Best as well –– is not surprising in the slightest. (It is incredibly disappointing, though.)

    As someone who was a kid when the prequels came out, I always liked Jar Jar. I know a lot of people felt like he was a pointless character, but come on –– the prequels were supposed to be the story of the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker, and much of The Phantom Menace doesn’t even revolve around him. That film easily could’ve been consolidated or reworked because there are a lot of plot points within it that are completely irrelevant to the subsequent films, many of which involve Jar Jar. I think that speaks more to the flaws with the prequels as a whole than Jar Jar’s perceived failure as a character, though. He made a lot of kids happy, including myself, and in that regard, I think he was a huge success. (Not to mention, he’s still considered a HUGE technical achievement in terms of how CGI and motion capture are now utilized to bring characters like that to life.)

    And for what it’s worth, I think Jar Jar is more relatable and has more heart than a lot of the characters in Star Wars do. I love the prequels, but I’m not emotionally connected to a lot of those characters in the way that I am with the originals and the sequels. Jar Jar is one character, though, that I never had a problem identifying with. He’s not a desirable character to identify with in the way that someone like Luke, Anakin or Rey is, but I think all of us can empathize with being a misfit like that. He’s an absolutely ridiculous character, but I think for kids, it’s important to have characters like Jar Jar as much as it’s important to have characters like Luke Skywalker. He isn’t necessarily a great character, but I appreciate what he represents and think his place within Star Wars is absolutely earned. He embodies the idea that Star Wars is for everyone.
     
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    Good point, in the PT, Lucas goes to every actor and says “good, but try it again like you are dead inside.”
    And they did, but he didn’t give a blast about jar jar, so jar jar has the most emotion of any character.
     
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    Yeah, I mean... Even if you did enjoy the prequels, like I did, there’s no denying that some of the writing was really bad, and I think a lot of the characters and their potential were wasted as a result. I think Anakin and Padmé are both good examples of that. Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman are fantastic actors, but they weren’t given a whole lot to work with, and even though they’re main characters that audiences are supposed to identify with, there’s not a whole lot of substance for them to relate to.

    I think sometimes, you can work on something and then start to overthink it, pick it apart, and ultimately ruin it in the process of trying to make it better. That seemed to be one of George’s issues in developing the prequels, and because he apparently did not take that approach to Jar Jar, that character works better than some of the other prequel characters do.
     
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    I didn't like Jar Jar becuase he is a main character and not a side one. I could understand the presence of a funny character but his jokes should be fun and not invasive. For example, did you like when Jar Jar stepped in a poop?

    During the Battle of Naboo I was hoping to see a more mature Jar Jar, who was a general and his duty was to defend his people from the droid army. But no, even during the battle we see stupid things. The Gungan could have been a great character in episode 1 with the right jokes and the right moments to appear. Moreover, I would have appreciated a character growth during The Phantom Menace, considering also that he becomes a Representative at the Galactic Senate in Attack of the Clones, sign of a more mature character. But we didn't see this growth. At the end of Revenge of the Sith, Jar Jar is sad during Padme's funeral. This means that he is not so stupid and he probably understood what was happening, considering also that he was present when Palpatine proclaimed the birth of the Empire. Something serious was going on.
    Conclusion: like I said before, Jar Jar could have been a good character, I saw it in episodes 2 and 3 where he had a secondary role. But the Gungan is quite unpleasant in episode 1 and this is why I didn't like the character that much. I don't know what happened in The Clone Wars, therefore I cannot speak about this series for now. I should watch the episodes but... for now I don't want.:D
     
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    I think I already said that here but for me Jar Jar is a nice character, it works for the kids even if sometimes he seems annoying.

    I like Jar Jar much more than Anakin (all films) and Mace Windu for example.
     
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    The adults couldn't accept the fact that it's for 12 year old boys too. Just like George Lucas always said.
     
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    People have blasted both Lucas and Ahmed Best over Jar Jar, calling the character racist and even hurling death threats (which, for a time, led to Best considering suicide). Personally, I adore the character; he's funny and brave without being full of himself.
     
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    I feel like he was just... unnecessary. They could have easily come up with more interesting or likeable character, but instead they chose to make Jar Jar... well, Jar Jar.
     
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    jar jar was a comedy relief character much like c3po in OT but he was written to be like jackie chan with his style of fighting ( drunken fist ... look it up ). He wasn't written in well enough due to the hype of phantom menace ( should of been called dual of the fates ) and he had too much screen time in ep 1 but not enough in rest of trilogy , not being funny he held a fundamental point in sheev's election he held naboos majority vote but was w he in ep 2/3 . Everyone hates on prequels but it does a great job of explaining how sheev took control of a whole galaxy , it not anakins story it always been palpitines .
     
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    I like Jar Jar.
     
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    Jar Jar and C3PO often get compared to each other. To me Jar Jar is way more forgivable a character than 3PO since I can't imagine anyone would intentionally program a droid in that manner. An amphibious creature would be expected to behave very different than land dwellers so that makes some sense to me.
     
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    I think 3PO is more logical than anything else, while Jar Jar was more emotional.
     
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