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FFG SW RPG anyone? :D

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Video/Tabletop Games' started by Angelman, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. Angelman

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    There's a ton of books to the game. There are three settings, each with 10-12 or so books (careers and the like), plus some "setting agnostic" books, too. All in all, I would guess there to be around 40 books for the game, pluss loads of decks of cards.

    That said, I feel they stretched the content to the limits and the books are pretty word-heavy with little actually said. I guess that in a random 98 page sourcebook, there are perhaps 6-8 pages of stuff that I'll actually use/reference much. On the other hand, publishers need to make money so I'm happy to buy the books even though I won't use all of them much.

    It should also be mentioned that Fantasy Flight Games seemes to have discontinued the game (with one additional book in the print), and in fact there are reports that the entire RPG department is in the state of being disbanded. So, not great news for the game. Still, it is pretty much a complete game as it is, so grab all you can get before the books become scarse and you'll be able to play the game loooong after the books are out of print :)
     
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    I know there was a whole ton of Warhammer games that it seems are no longer produced, titles like:
    • Dark Heresy
    • Rogue Trader
    • Deathwatch
    • Only War
    I would hate the same to happen to SW. Again it is a budgeting issue.
     
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    (I don't play W40K stuff, although I do play a lot of WFRP. But back on topic)

    SW is such a huge franchise that there will always be RPGs attached to it. If FFG drops the game(s) today, there will be new companies ready to take over within a couple of years. Of course, that means you'll have to invest in core rules and core setting all over again, but all right. I would love for there to eventually be an RPG attched to Project Luminous; I'm already thinking about running games in that setting!!!
     
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    Hopefully, there will be a definitive guide to this new setting that you can use.
     
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    I used to play the system called "Sagas" I think, many years back, and only recently found out about the FFG. It looks interesting, and I'd like to get into it, but can't seem to find any resources to skim over and decide, for free. I don't need the whole core rulebook, just some of the basic rules and character creation to get an idea of how they handle it.

    What has your experience with the system been like?
     
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    The system has been a blast thus far. It's very fiddly but a pretty strong game mechanic, and very well integrated overall. In short, after some... 15-20 sessions, I like it a lot.

    But, it is difficult to find the books anymore. FFG have discontingued the line and passed its RPG responcibilities over to Edge Studios (who have hinted they'll be ready to show off what their future entails next year - hopefully they'll do some more Star Wars :) ). To check out the rules for free, you could do worste than YouTube. "Legends of the Galaxy" is a pretty big community (but I don't know them too well), and they have several YouTube vids and stuff: http://www.legendsofthegalaxy.com/Learn-To-Play/
     
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    I've only been able to play/DM this for <10 sessions, but I've really enjoyed it. Enough to grab all the core rulebooks. I've been dying to play more but haven't found many local groups, and my D&D group doesn't really feel like branching out to Star Wars.

    If anyone ever wants to run a PbP or anything, let me know ;)

    I've been daydreaming of running a campaign set in the throws of a new Jedi Order created after the Skywalker saga (probably with Rey as an old lady/not so much in the picture) and the threats they face. It'd be fun to create some additional lore for a few years until it all goes away for an inevitable new trilogy.
     
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    Hello there @Angelman and all the others! I’m about to launch a game of this in the future. I wasn’t able to read through the whole thread yet, just wanted to mention that I took the chance when the German publisher stopped that line (same as FFG), to buy everything for a bug I could lay my hands on. To get more than one dice set, it was even cheaper to buy the EotE and AoR Beginners Kits multiple times (where each a dice set comes with it), then to order them stand-alone on Amazon. As quite a bunch of books in German where already out of print, I added some English original sourcebooks to. Unfortunately, the still available material (none German) meanwhile has such a steep price that I did not brought it. So I have all three Core books plus some source and adventure modules lying around.

    And because of my Adrian Monk attitude when it comes to categorization and tables, I started to make up an Excel sheet where I include (in the first run) all space vehicles from all the books I have, as quick reference and for an easier overview.

    So in the future count me in to get on your nerves with games related discussions here. (emperor)

    By the way: As I started role playing in the early 80s (the original D&D was my gateway drug, not unlike those nerd kids in “Stranger Things”), still about 30 books of the original West End Games Star Wars RPG rest on my shelf, incl. the box set “Lords of the Expanse” with the Tapani Sector in it.

    What appreciate is how many ideas from those books found their way into SW canon over the last years. It’s not by accident that Pablo Hidalgo amassed his GFFA knowledge by being a Game Master of that system with all the pesky little player questions (“How did the Falcon get from Hoth to Bespin without any Hyperdrive system, and how long did it take them?”), thus becoming the SW lore advisor.
     
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    Best of luck with the campaign, @StarDude! :D

    As for myself, I’ve been GMing well over 200 sessions of this through the pandemic and it has been a right blast :cool: The system is a bit clunky, and my players’ characters have grown extremely powerful at this point, but we have had a lot of fun and powerful moments with it.

    I was lucky and picked up around 80% of the FFG SWRPG books for around 600 EURO, along with dice and various accessories (loads of card decks), so I got a great head start in buying up this game. And with the amount of game sessions we’ve been able to squeeze in, I’d say we’ve got our money’s worth, too :rolleyes:

    I started RPGing back in 1991, so I’m second generation ;) But weirdly, I thing I’ve played less than 5 sessions of D&D/AD&D/variants through these 30-some years. It’s been Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Call of Cthulhu, Star Wars, and Fading Suns for us, mostly, and lately, Alien RPG. I still own around 35 WEG SWRPG books, although I got rid of some of them at some point. And you’re right that the WEG version of Star Wars RPG was extremely important to SW back in the days, and the game line pretty much carried the franchise for a few years and informed it up until the PT launched. For instance, when Timothy Zahn was green-lit to write the original Thrawn trilogy, Lucasfilm sent him a bunch of WEG SWRPG books for him to use as reference material! And yeah, Pablo Hidalgo is a familiar name to anyone deeply involved with SWRPG back in the 90s.


    I don’t own “Lord of the Expanse” anymore, but that was a very detailed and well-developed setting, for sure! The FFG SWRPG campaign my group is currently playing, (and nearing the climax off), has been inspired by the great “DarkStryder” campaign which WEG released in the late 90s. Basically, we’ve been playing a prequel story to that campaign, setting up and foreshadowing things in the Kathol Sector that will come to fruition in “DarkStryder”, if we ever get to start up that beast… :rolleyes:


    Actually, it was the WEG SWRPG that got me into the Fading Suns RPG that I have been professionally writing for in the last decade or so. Basically, I grew tired of the WEG rules system and, in 2001, I walked into my local gaming store to find another Space Opera game, and walked away with Fading Suns RPG. That lead me to eventually being hired to write for the game, (‘cause I bothered the license owners until they gave up and gave me a chance), and all of that grew directly out of my love/hate for WEG SWRPG back in the day <3


    Please do engage with me about your game, @StarDude. I love to discuss both SW and RPG :)
     
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    Unfortunately, I never laid my hands on the Kathol Rift campaign. And now it sells for 100 – 175 EUR. My favorite sourcebooks back then included “Tramp Freighters” introducing the mini Minos Campaign (written by M. Rein-Hagen and S. Wieck, founder of the later World of Darkness and White Wolf publishing), as well as “Fragments from the Rim”, introducing Inquisitors as player nemesis to the GFFA.
     
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    Really! 100-175 EUR? Wow... I guess I must'nt throw away my old books then ;)

    Oh yeah, Tramp Frighters and Fragments of the Rim were good ones :) I still find it funny that the writers of the latter added to the SW lore an in-universe punk-rock band called "Boba Fett and the Assassin Droids". LOL!
     
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    Indeed, I am here. In fact I'm starting an Edge of the Empire campaign this coming February 2nd on Discord. I've already filled up on players unfortunately, or I would've announced it here. Discord seems to be the only place where I've been able to find players. They should let people list their Discord names on this system. Mine is blakstar#2994 .

    One of the things that's always impressed me about the Star Wars FFG system (now published by Edge since FFG was acquired by a bigger fish, Asmodee) is that they divided the system among three games to make it easier for GM's and players to focus on what aspect of the gaming universe they were populating/inhabiting.

    Edge of the Empire of course focuses on Fringers, the Outer Rim, outcasts, criminals, bounty hunters, smugglers... you know the type. We were introduced to them RIGHT UP FRONT in the very first movie. Tatooine is like a capital world for this very archetype in the Star Wars universe, especially once you hit that notorious Hive of Scum and Villainy... Mos Eisley. You can be sure my campaign will eventually find itself there at some point. However, I've developed my own 'headquarters' planet for my game as well as an organization that my players will themselves found and build. Once I've determined that my campaign is something that people will want to play, I'll put it together in the EoE format and place it on a website for free download. In fact, I'd like to build a whole website completely dedicated to Star Wars FFG homebrew.

    (I'm listening to Star Wars LoFi Hip-Hop on youtube as I write this, and I just heard Palps say 'Dew it!' That just makes me say 'muahahahahahahaha!!!')

    I've collected all of the books and cards for Edge of the Empire and Force and Destiny. I don't see myself picking up Age of Rebellion. I've had to teach myself not to be a completist when it comes to these things... well, less of one anyway. I've got all kinds of concepts I've been brewing for both systems, as well as the Modiphius system for 'Dishonored'. People tend to like my games. I've been running a large variety of systems going back to about May 1984. My first system was FASA's Star Trek RPG. I had some amazing games with some very old friends with that system. Some of them are now one with the Force, sadly.

    Glad to join The Cantina and glad to see someone is running the FFG system. MTFBWYA.
     
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    Welcome on board @jan blakstar ! Enjoy your stay!

    Please keep me posted when that website of your becomes reality, this really sound intriguing!

    Actually, I tried out the FFG board game ‘Outer Rim’ last weekend, which includes, in some minor detail, some of the facets of the RPG as well. It was kind of fun indeed as it transports the same vibes (and the setting) of ‘Edge of the Empire’ (player character, goals etc.).
     
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    I tried that for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and I thought it was pretty good! It had some minor issues, but I undertstand that the expansion fixed all of those, so I'm looking forward to playing Outer Rim again, soon :D
     
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    Yepp, just saw a review on YouTube for the expansion box some minutes ago. Seems to have a bug-fix for one of the cards from the base game, plus a bunch of really good supplementary material which makes the whole game much more enjoyable (like different goals to win the game for each character besides just reaching prestige 10). I also like that you now can fly from one end of the Outer Rim directly to the other side by going via the core worlds in-between, if you take up a specific challenge. And they doubled all the encounters, market cards, characters (Hera, Chewbacca, Cad Bane, …) and ships for more diversity. We wanna have another session next Friday, I’m already thinking about getting my hands on the expansion even before that.
     
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