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‘Star Wars': Original Script Was ‘Gobbledygook’

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by Djas Puhr, Oct 6, 2014.

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    So that's how the Original Trilogy would be if George Lucas had as much creative control as he did during the Prequels...
     
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    Tom, it's fascinating. I think you'll really enjoy it.

    Plus, the site also has Leigh Brackett's original ESB script (VERY different from what we eventually saw) as well as Lucas' rough draft of the Revenge of the Jedi script - also very different from what the final script turned out to be.
     
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    I'm going to have alot of reading to do. Hopefully Marvel will put these into comics like DarkHorse did with the 1st Star Wars draft.
     
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    Erm... you do realize that he did? This is the script of his second draft. The first is now able to seen in comic form. The ultimate creative control was always his. What that actually means as opposed to what you seem to think it means are probably quite different.

    The point as always is that each and every version of the script from the rough draft to the fourth which was the basis for the final film was complete gibberish to virtually everyone who read it unless Lucas actually explained it to them and painted the visual pictures.

    You know when you have a dream and you see all these incredible visuals but after you wake you quickly lose them?

    That is what Star Wars was like. No one except Lucas could see what it was he was trying to do. It was from his dreams. Trying to imagine what it would all be like by simply writing a script, just letters on paper, not a book mind you a script. Who's going to really be able to get it?

    It's odd though. Lucas does something that no one else could do let alone truly understand the way he did it and that continued throughout the OT but some people loved that and bought into that. Now for the prequels he does the same thing. They can't understand it. Fine. So they are no different than the people who didn't get Star Wars in the first place.

    So many people think they know what Star Wars is. They obviously don't. They just want it the way they first got it not realizing that what they got wasn't what it was in the early stages they didn't see. That it changed over time. ESB is not SW, ROTJ is not ESB, TPM is not ROTJ, AOTC is not TPM, ROTS is not AOTC. They are different but part of a overall whole.
     
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    You know, you come off as a little bit pretentious.
     
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    It's rather insulting to imply that those who don't happen to like the prequel films somehow "don't get" Star Wars.
     
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    Not to be too blunt, but you are just making junk up. During the creation of Star Wars, George Lucas went thru (apparantly) several drafts to get to something the studios would make. During the actual filming process they had to make sacrifices, shoot on location and get up and go direct, there were other executive teammembers, and people didn't always listen to Lucas. He let the actors bring new life into the script - actors can be creative people too. During The Empire Strikes Back, he had even less control, he wasn't the director and niether draft of the script was written by him. The special effects and costumes and sets were constrained by what artists were capable of doing at the time, and they went from George's and Lawrence Kasdan's and Leigh Brackett's conception, to Ralph McQuarrie's paintings, to Colin Cantwell's concept models, to John Mollo's and Aggie Guerard Roger's costumes and hundreds of model builder's models, to George's and Richard Marquand's and Irving Kershner's directing. George Lucas famously wasn't satisfied with the special effects in Star Wars, though! Kinda sounds like he had the opposite of ultimate creative control.

    But during the creation of the Prequels, George Lucas was a famous billionaire because he created Star Wars. Now, what he says goes, no matter what - if he has an idea, nobody is going to tell him its bad, and it shows hard. Each Prequel had one rushed draft written exclusively by Lucas (Or Lucas plus one yes-man - I'm lookin at you Hales!). They were written quickly and sloppily to make a schedule, and nobody objected to anything in them. The special effects went right from George's head onto a computer, and they look bad. I have seen alot of footage of George Lucas directing the Prequels, and he just sits behind a computer with his coffee while the actors walk around on a greenscreen. He has "A Camera and B Camera". There's no creative vision there, and its why so many of the scenes with actors in them look like a soap opera. Another thing I noticed is that he gives no freedom for the actors to be creative - they shoot the scene until George gets exactly what he wanted.

    The Star Wars Original Trilogy was interesting to watch and the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy was not interesting to watch. I think the phrase is "Art thru adversity". If everybody's raw dreams got printed or filmed or painted exactly how they dreamed them, they would suck - adversity is a good thing to a creative process, and collaboration is a good thing to a creative process, and that is true. Anyway, I'm not saying this is the only reason the Star Wars Prequels are bad, but its probably one of the biggest ones.
     
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