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10 Reasons I'm glad the prequels weren't great.

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by HothLeia, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. HothLeia

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    They were supposed to bring balance to Hollywood, not leave it in darkness!

    You get what I'm saying. :) However, the more I watch the prequels and the more I think about what is to come, the more content I am with the Force of film-making working in mysterious ways.

    Now, I don't hate the prequels. I find there is much to be desired and the pale in comparison to my beloved OT, but I don't hate them. Still, many-a-fan has their own ideas about what they would do to save the prequels and bring balance to the Saga. I remember the disappointment of TPM and scratching my head at the romance in AotC. But ...would changing the prequels really make a better future for Star Wars?


    Imagine if Marty McFly went back in time and changed the prequels to make them excellent films. Would it really create a better future?

    1. They meh factor of I and II made ROTS, the most important movie in the entire series, stand out. While many fans I know who don't care for the prequels stand by their opinion, most seem to give to a pass to ROTS. For many it was the first one that really "felt like a Star Wars" movie. ROTS had to be the most important and well made of the trilogy.

    2. I'm starting to like the "camp" factor of the prequels....that in...I like B movies. I'm starting to like the universal pandering of Jar Jar, Darth Vader's "Noooooooooooooo", and Hayden's monologues. While I was hoping for a new Empire Strikes Back, I'm learning to accept the B-movie bits that are in some strange way....becoming classic.

    3. Without the prequels as they are...we would not have the excellent reviews and spoofs online that are better than Episode I. Plinkett Prequel Reviews, Nostalgia Critic's Top II Prequel moments, Robot Chicken, timeless Jar Jar jokes would fade from existence...

    4. Some of the unintentionally bad dialogue in the prequels is just as quotable as the OT....not in the same way, but just as quotable.

    5. Jar Jar
    Wait. Jar Jar sucks. Well...of course he does. But has there ever been a character so profoundly hated by an entire fandom? There are disagreements on Ewoks, Palpatine, Expanded Universe, and Mon Mothma...but I dare say 95% of the fanbase has similar feelings about poor ole Binks. Jar Jar has indeed gone down in history. And while I doubt I'll ever bond with this character, I am starting to like his presence in fandom in a Tommy Wisseau kind of way....a classic example of cinema gone wrong that brings fans together in an unexpected and twisted way. While Jar Jar never made anyone laugh in the way he intended to (except maybe some little kiddos and babies) he has brought joy and delight to many fans through spoofs, parody, and hilarious Binks Awakens trailers. That sh*t is funny.


    6. There are some great elements in the prequels and I simply like them as they are. Obi-wan and Palpatine are great, love Maul's design, and the lightsaber battles had a lot of creativity and action.

    7. We have learned that two gorgeous people in gorgeous scenery does not = romance. I'd rather watch Leia and Han looking shabby from falcon maintenance and crammed in an unimpressive space than two actors with no chemistry playing with CGI cow-aliens in a field. I believe JJ we will consider as well, whatever romance comes our way in TFA....

    8. I don't think we need to worry about poodoo jokes. It happened in the prequels, and I've yet to see a favorable response to this type of humor in a Star Wars film. This leads to believe that JJ will return to character and circumstance driven humor we loved in the OT.

    9. We have learned from the over-use of CGI.

    I will always be a sticker for practical effects. I do think CGI has its place, but an over abundance of it just...kind of hurts my eyes, AoTC. Perhaps the over-reliance of CGI in the prequels is what inspired JJ to lead the film industry into what I hope is a new era of special effects....combining both the advances in new technology with excellent high-tech physical/practical effects (like BB8) to work together and create solid scenes. Without the backlash of CGI overuse (South Park, fans, so on...) would TFA be experimenting with too much CGI-just assuming fans would want more CGI over practical?


    10. The shortcomings of the prequels allow more consideration and thought to be put into The Force Awakens and hopefully create the new Star Wars story we have been waiting for. Without the prequels, would TFA face the same pitfalls?

    JJ is going into production knowing what worked, what didn't work, and most importantly...what fans want and don't want based on personal experience and numerous online comments and reviews.



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    11. IF The Force Awakens is truly the masterpiece it may be turning out to be, the victory and satisfaction of seeing this film will be so much sweeter because the prequels were not as good.
    The prequels, as they are, may be paving the way for Star Wars' new hope...
     
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    The main problem with the prequels is that the already knew the story. We knew Anakin's fate, we knew who was Palpatine, there was absolutely no surprise.
     
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    And therefore, the storytelling was limited in what it could do. Tension was removed because we knew who would survive. Any danger Anakin, Obi-wan, Yoda, et al were in was immediately reduced to time filler. We didn't care how it played occurred because we knew the end result - they survived.
     
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    As part of my personal Journey to the Force Awakens, I am re-watching all the movies and I just finished with prequels yesterday. And, I had better experience than before, mainly because I was mentally prepared, lol. But, yes, we can agree that execution of overall good story (reverse Hero's Journey) could have been done much, much better. We knew the outcome? I know the outcome of Apollo 13 and it's still exciting, nail-biting film. It was the execution.

    I never hated the prequels, I just never watched them. My main problem wasn't any one thing like the CGI or wooden acting or poor writing. The OT made me believe in GFFA, the prequels seemed like Star Wars skin was draped over some sci-fi/fantasy film. They didn't made me feel that this was a real world in which real people/aliens live. They felt staged. My imagination wasn't captured by them and I transported into this world. I was watching actors acting rather than characters living.

    You make several very good points and some tongue-in-cheek ones, but I am glad that as fandom we are coming to the place of acceptance rather than hatred. Were prequels good? No. But, they are what we have. They are the family members we have to live with. :D

    I hope TFA will bring balance to the fandom, i.e. that majority of people will enjoy and like the movie, and we will enjoy new Star Wars over and over and over again... :)
     
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    Now that TFA has started to sink in for me, it seemed like a good time to revive an old thread.

    What occurs to me is that if GL had done a better job with the PT (and many of my thoughts mirror the OP's), we would not have been where we are today.

    That is, GL may not have sold to Disney, and we wouldn't have the excitement of seeing where the story can go now.

    I for one am very excited to see what Rian Johnson does with VIII.
     
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    I am a proud lover of the prequels. I grew up on them, and I rate ROTS just above TFA, and below TESB. I know the OT is better than the PT, but without the PT, we wouldn't have the outstanding and Emmy winning TCW series, and there's a very good chance no TFA and ST. TFA really did learn from the PT, but I also think Rian Johnson, who has stated that he loves the "beauty" of the prequels, will most likely bring a lot of elements into the PT. So what was okay can become very good, possibly. I don't know, but I agree that the PT was very important to blockbusters and Star Wars.
     
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    12. Without the prequels, we wouldn't have the legend of Darth Plagueis the Wise, and the Cantina would definitely be poorer for it.
     
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    Yeah, the prequels showed us that a great star wars movie is not a guarantee. It showed us what we like and don't like about modern filmmaking.
     
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    My turn

    1: The jedi were crazy.

    2: I don't liking going back in time so often.

    3: They all had a bad past, I'm glad their future was saved

    4: Jar Jar Binks.

    5: To much CGI

    6: Young Vader failed measurably.
    7: They tried the Vader Nooooo against the Luke Nooooo, Luke won(luke)

    8: GL never thought he would make a prequel & when the creator says that you worry for the fans.

    9: Anakin's lightsaber didn't have much of a journey through the trilogy i hope it would leading to OT.

    10: The titles.
     
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    Well it's not like The PT ever wanted gone planned...it WAS planned but GL just NEVER knew he would ever have the opportunity to create them .
     
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