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1313 reboot and is Disney too PC?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Video/Tabletop Games' started by Callisto Arlok, May 17, 2021.

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Should 1313 be rebooted?

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  1. Use the Falchion

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    I'm torn on this now. I used to love the 1313 concept and game, and a part of me still really does! But...I just don't care about Boba Fett anymore, especially since he's getting his own series. If the story group could work 1313 into being about a different bounty hunter (say...maybe a smuggling mission gone wrong taking place between a certain Star Wars Movie and a potential sequel...? #MakeSolo2Happen) then I might be happier. I guess I'm just in a place where 1313 and BoBF are mutually exclusive to me. I can either assuredly like one or potentially like the other, but I won't like both for some strange reason...

    ...1313 was the Boba Fett game they cancelled, right?
     
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    :confused: A desire by Lucasfilm/Disney to concentrate on the wider market and make things suitable to as broad an age range as possible has nothing whatsoever to do with "PC".
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Eh, I don't think it's because Disney is "too PC". I mean, in Fallen Order you struggle with the dark side and witness Order 66 as a kid, and in Battlefront II you witness the destruction of a planet at a much more personal scale than Alderaan. I can't imagine 1313 would be all that much mature than that.

    If anything, I think 1313 is shelved because the engine is incredibly old now, but also because Boba Fett is kinda doing his own thing in the comics and the shows now. Disney have been very careful with canon, and I think we're likely to see games headlined by new characters, rather than existing ones like Fett or Luke. That's why I think they were so quick to shelve 1313... it pidgeonholed Fett more than they were comfortable with, first starting out.

    And tbh... I wasn't crazy about the game anyway. While I don't mind non-kid friendly content of course, I'm also not overly enamored with the grimdark, edgelord setting they were going for. Star Wars can be so many things, and a dark story under Coruscant just seems so limiting (not to mention it's already been done before). And I think I'm not alone in that- it's no coincidence that not only this, but also the similar TV show also never saw the light of day.
     
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    I don’t see what Disney being PC has to do with it either. I know a lot of people complain about the lack of dismemberment in Jedi: Fallen Order, but I think that was more of an ESRB rating thing. The game still touched on some dark themes with Cere and the Inquisitorious, so a mildly gritty bounty hunter game doesn’t seem like it would be something that’s too dark or “not PC enough” for Lucasfilm to touch.

    Personally I’d like to see 1313 remade, remastered, rebooted, or whatever the proper term is. It seemed like a cool concept for a game and there are so many 1313 references in The Clone Wars and the canon novels, which leads me to believe that Lucasfilm definitely knows how hyped the fans were for this story. They’d definitely have to retool some of the story, especially since Boba should already have his armor at this point. With how popular The Mandalorian and soon The Book of Boba Fett is, now would be the perfect time to dust off the concept and get someone working on it now that EA doesn’t have exclusive gaming rights anymore. Plus the rumors about KOTOR getting a remaster AND a canon remake shows that 1313 finally seeing the light of the day is a real possibility.
     
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    The ESRB is a good point. I'd also add that while yes, dismemberment is common in Star Wars, it's more of a big moment thing than a constant.

    Like, sure Vader cuts off Luke's hand. And sometimes Chewbacca rips some arms. But it's not like we're constantly seeing battle scenes where soldiers are getting eviscerated and disemboweled. Even in the prequels, the violence is usually pretty tame- and the fact that droids were designated as the fodder enemy just goes to show that.

    So, I think it's reasonable enough that we could see Cal or someone lose a hand or something in the next game, but I don't think we need to see decapitations and constant arm removal. Not only is that not Disney, it's not Star Wars.
     
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    The lack of dismemberment in JFO could also be due to the game being unfinished and slightly rushed for release by EA. This sort of things happens to most big games.
     
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    Maybe a little, though if I remember right JFO had a pretty smooth release compared to most AAA titles of the past few years.


    idk, I'm always kinda weirded out when decapitations/dismemberment is a sticking point for gamers. They're not really common in a lot of games that are much more violent than the Star Wars universe- for instance, AC Valhalla was noted as being one of the first entries in the series to have this stuff in it, and that's the twelfth major release in an M rated series that's iconic for its violence.
     
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    I think the frustration is that the game focuses heavily on lightsaber combat and that's something the game does well, so the lack of dismemberment is an emersion breaker for a lot of people, which is understandable since its something lightsabers are synonymous with. Jedi Academy & Force Unleashed both featured it.

    Personally I wasn't too bothered, but I get the complaint.
     
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    While Force Unleashed 2 had dismemberment, the limbs still disappeared. It was still T for teen dismemberment. Plus dismemberment is a immersion issue, it doesn't make a game good or bad for that matter.
     
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    Salient point. +1


    TheFU2; with dismemberment included, will always suck a thermal exhaust port when compared to the Original. That is all.
     
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    Also having dismemberment doesn't mean it's going to make the game better. TFU 2 wasn't really that good of a game. Maybe I'm a bit biased since I didn't like either game but the sentiment of the online community with those games is that the first game was better than the 2nd one.
     
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    If I recall correctly, the only reason The Force Unleashed and some of those other games got away with dismemberment is because the developers fibbed and said that stormtroopers are robots or something like that. XD
     
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    But, they WERE robots....

    From a certain point of view.
     
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    I never said it makes the game bad, in fact I loved the game. Dismemberment is just one of the many missing features that stop it from being a truly great game-It's agonisingly close to being perfect in so many aspects, the quintessential 7/10.
     
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    It'd definitely be cool to see, but honestly if they remaster it I'd rather see a new character as the lead. I like Boba Fett, but his well established characterization in canon would probably end up limiting the game. It's a cool concept though.
     
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    To be totally honest, as much as I love the concept materials, and as much as I want justice for the original dev team . . .

    I'm not crazy about 1313 as a game. I feel like we already have sci-if games where you can play as this type of character and fire blasters and all that
    good stuff. For a Star Wars game, I want something I can only get from Star Wars.

    my favorite part of this concept is the open world. But if you're doing open world, I also want open possibilities. I don't just want to have a blaster and hunt bounties.
     
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    While asteroids typically do not concern me, they sure look amazing in this new game clip.​
     
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