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2 Parts to End the trilogies

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Jase Windu, Dec 4, 2018.

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    Would the movies be called Episode 9 part one and Episode 9 part 2? Or would it be Episodes 9 and 10?
     
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    If they did a true 2 part movie where the cut the story off halfway through I would say it would be Episode IX part 1 and Episode IX part 2
     
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    I don't think it will even attempt to tie into the events of the first 6 films. The goal will be to wrap up Rey/Kylo's story as well as the mind numbingly dull FO/Resistance retread. It wouldn't make sense to revisit old plot points and characters in at this point in the story when so many introduced in TFA and TLJ alone remain unresolved.

    I seriously doubt this film will be split into 2, I get the sense they want this one to make as much money as possible from this and be over and done with. The people involved seem to have a very narrow view of what a Star Wars saga story can be and I get the impression they feel creatively stifled by that and want to move onto new projects. I'm pretty sure this one will be very character focused and action heavy. They don't have a new or interesting story to tell, or one that ties the saga together. This trilogy is a new set of characters experiencing largely the same story as the one told in the OT (remixed to varying degrees) this film will be the conclusion to their story.
     
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    A part of me would be happy to spend some more time with the sequel trilogy and it's characters, but when looking at the other recent attempts at splitting up movies in this way, like Harry Potter, Hunger Games or the Hobbit, I hope they don't. I get that it's a lot to wrap up in a single movie, but they should honestly just focus on making IX as good as they can.
     
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    Agree with the OP 100%.

    Most of the problems with movies of this scope and importance to the story would be solved if writers and directors had more time to properly flesh out characters and important connecting story elements. Are you telling me you couldn't have used a bit more running time to build out Snoke's story and character? Rey's training? Time explaining Luke last 30 years? Ben Solo-to Kylo more fleshed out? Knights of Ren (who?) Phasma? The entire Canto side track being cut can only give so much as it was already on the long side for running time.

    Even Force Awakens could have done with another 45 minutes of fleshing out.

    Good post OP. I've argued this in the passed with people and it's kind of not popular and bold but lots of value to it. I mean Avengers is 2 movies. That's a wtf why decision not Star Wars imo.
     
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    If you move away from the Skywalker-centric stories for the next trilogy (assuming they make one), then there aren't going to be any nostalgia juices. The new characters just haven't captured the public imagination like Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia and Darth Vader. Nobody is going to be sitting around in 2030 thinking "wow! I can't wait to see the continuing adventures of Rey, Poe and Finn!!"

    Disney has a real problem on their hands with this series after E9, and they know it.
     
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    Which is primarily exemplified by how Prequels, to which the general response has been mixed at best, generate no nostalgia... What? They do?!

    Of course there will be nostalgia for the ST protagonists. Even if there won't be (which there will be,) Disney will make damn sure that the general public will feel nostalgic. I know that my experience is not representative of wider public, but the Sequel Trilogy is what reallly got me into Star Wars. My opinion on TFA may have changed but I still very much forward to IX and I would sure be interested in seeing what there is in store for Rey & co., no matter how grim or happy it is. Besides - don't underestimate the nostalgia-generating powers of any film that has been a topic of continuous discussions for over a year, especially if it is as big as The Last Jedi.
     
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    These movies have been topics of discussion in Star Wars forums and movies forums. Go to non-movie forums and see what they are talking about in their "off topic" sub forum, and there's a lot more Avengers than Star Wars.

    Believe me, I hate to say this... but these new movies just aren't grabbing the general public's imagination. Obviously, yes, the hardcore SW fans - people in this forum - can discuss it morning, noon and night... but the casual movie goer? They aren't talking Star Wars. They are salivating for the Avengers trailer the way they used to salivate for SW.

    My hope is JJ turns it around and gets the general public excited about Star Wars again.
     
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    Yes. The MCU is on fire right now. They have this business down to a science. They have created something very special and deserve to be the #1 franchise.
     
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    Are there any quotes/interviews from JJ or KK or others that definitively rule out a 4 part movie series?

    I'm not even sure they refer to this set of movies as the "sequel trilogy". Would love to see how they've described them.
     
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    They have said that episode IX would be the last of the Skywalker saga. That implies that there will be only one more movie in this series
     
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    I don't really see the need to extend Episode IX into 2 parts in all honesty. The amount of story left to complete isn't as much as some people feel after TLJ. The only OT character left to complete the story of is Leia and due to off screen tragedy their limited in how much of that can be done on screen.

    But of the new characters you can comfortably finish off stories for Kylo, Rey, Poe and Finn in one film. 2 of these (Kylo and Rey) will be interlinked anyway so its only 3 story arcs that need rounding off. Some of the secondary characters like Hux and Rose wont take up much screen time in respect to the whole film.
     
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    Just out of curiosity how would an Episode IX split in two even work. Wouldn't a second part of Episode IX in all reality be Episode X? If not, how would the opening crawl work? Would both movies get an opening crawl? Or would only the first movie get a crawl while the second just jumps right in where the last left off?
     
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    If you spit it into to like other series have done and not have a finite ending for the first one. I would think that it would be Part 1 and Part 2. Part 2 would likely then take place directly from where Part 1 left off. Could have a crawl for both as it would set up what happens in both movies.
     
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    I would not mind an Ep X to cap off the saga.. But as long as their is no original characters from the OT, ( besides r2 and c3po.).
     
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    I think they should have done episode 7 as a standalone, focusing on the OT characters, set around the time of Kylo's turn to the dark side/the very first return of the first order. Give the audience what they want, then do a new trilogy for the new characters.
    If everybody had already seen plenty of the OT 3 on screen and had seen Luke in his prime (possibly facing off against Snoke in the films climax) I think everyone would have been much more accepting of the new characters and the way the story's panning out and the characters/war would feel much more weighty.
    People would be much wore willing to sit back and watch the story unfold as opposed to sitting there think okay...cool, but when is Luke gonna kick some ass/when are we going to find out where that guy came from/why should we care about this character ? Wait this is the penultimate film in the skywalker saga why are we watching space horses? etc. I think that's a big part of why so many people aren't enamoured with the new trilogy, after getting so exicted by the announcement and that the OT character were involved they feel...blue balled (can't think of a better term xD)
     
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    I don't know.... In my experience, apart from the first film ANH, which is universally loved, SW has always had a niche fandom. The casual moviegoer does enjoy SW but I'd say they have never reflected much about it. The Marvel films do seem to be capturing the imagination of the younger crowd and inspiring them more than SW... I personally have zero time for superheroes, but my students appear to love that sort of thing... I wonder, however, if this is because the Superhero mythology is more simplistic and generic and therefore more accessible than SW, which has at its core more profound, serious themes.
     
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    I think you're way overthinking it. The MCU superhero movies are simply better movies than the 4 recent SW movies.
     
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    Overthinking? Nah. It honestly didn’t take much thinking to reach this conclusion: MCU superhero movies are at best mediocre, infantile and formulaic. I don’t see quality in none of those elements, but each to their own...
     
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    LOL, it's clear you haven't seen all of them....
     
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