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2010 test footage of the cancelled Underworld show released.

Discussion in 'General TV Series Discussion' started by Andrew Waples, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. Andrew Waples

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    It's interesting to say the least. It's random that it leaks now... but okay.
     
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    Are we sure this is legit? It's definitely high product value & big budget, but the acting and camera work seems very amateurish to me. (I'm no expert, however).

    At least one shot is used twice.
     
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    Well it's test footage, for the prequels they would some times get their own employees to act out a scene they were working on.
     
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    You think somebody faked ten minutes of Star Wars footage?!! It even has 'making of' footage in the second half.

    If it IS fake, then whoever made it needs hiring NOW!

    It seemed okay to me. No worse than anything seen or heard in some actual Star Wars films. Plus I guess they're just experimenting with style and wanting to see what can be done with the technology. Perfect performance wouldn't have been a priority.

    I didn't notice, but if it's just test footage not a finished scene and possibly not even for use in a final show, then it doesn't really matter. And it's not unusual to reuse a shot to cover an edit if you've got nothing else to use.
     
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    I have no idea if this is or not, but people would absolutely do that. For the clicks, for the troll, to prove than can do better than JJ or Rian....

    I mean have you seen some of these fan movies?
     
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    I like the aesthetic, but I'm kinda glad it was canceled. Even with as good as it could've looked, 2010 sci-fi/fantasy TV just didn't quite have the quality that it does today. Even standouts like Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead definitely had lower budget first seasons, and stuff like Terra Nova showed how terrible some of the effects could look.

    Something like Coruscant would require a ton of effects to pull off, and I think we're much more capable of it now (heck, there were times where even Lucas' saga films couldn't make Coruscant look good).

    I think we're in the golden age of Star Wars TV now, so bring it! Or, if we don't ever get this series, at least incorporate elements of it that would be a good fit into other shows (like Mando or Cassian).
     
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    Well no, in fairness generally speaking I haven't - but do they really compare to this?

    What I HAVE seen is the re-imaging of the Vader and Obi-Wan duel from ANH, and as well done as it was, I wouldn't have put it in the same standard as this. But sure - I guess it's not out of the question that it could be faked, and such things are getting easier.

    Rather than using for trolling though, I'd be using it to add to a wannabe movie maker showreel! Not to prove they are 'better' than anyone (I don't thinik that didn't work out so good for the guy who did 'the phantom edit'), but just to prove they can do it and be worthy of employment! And so far there doesn't seem to be any sign of

    However, although I think it's good to be cynical with stuff like this, I think I'd fall on the side of it being legit. I don't see any attempt at a sense of superiority on the back of it, and the scene itself is fairly innocuous.
     
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    yes some of the camera work looks shaky and for the life of me the spiked heals really take me out of it. Still oh my god I wish new shows looked like this. What I mean by that is look at the world it is so populated, so alive with activity. This certainly had a larger budget then Mandalorian which may very well why it didnt continue.
     
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    Well, for what it's worth. I don't think there is any sort off ill intent involved. The YouTube description gives credit to Stargate Studios and Lucasfilm.

    https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1DdxDngZpm6acDGOjXTmj6YeFSMO9aI2fNnAc1lL5HOY/mobilebasic [I got that link from the description]

    What's interesting is to see a lot of this stuff to eventually be seen on screen.
     
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    I'm not a fan of this overall, but it's quality isn't to go unnoticed:

     
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    They never actually followed up that with more episodes, did they?
     
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    Don't think so. He was actually kind of a jerk to me once so LOL on that.
     
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    Haha, yikes.

    Yeah, I don't know them too well, but they definitely seemed to fall into the more toxic side of the fandom around TLJ's release.
     
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    It was over a comment I made about the fan film where I said the production was second to none for a fan film but the overall story of it fell entirely flat to me. And gave even more credit for the production quality and he was just really not happy about that. I thought it felt very fair and honest but hey, to each their own.
     
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    It had a story?!?!

    Haha, yeah, that was a more than fair comment.

    In fact, back on topic... I'd say its production quality was far better than what we likely would've seen out of a network Star Wars TV show in 2010.

    Having watched some more of that clip, I think I've zeroed on exactly what it reminded me of- Tennant/Eccleston era Doctor Who. Or really, even modern Who. Their effects are still pretty hit or miss.
     
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    Okay, I get it. It's okay to give but not recieve criticism... Star Wars Theory.
     
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    I think comparing it to NuWho is a great comp.
    If your CGI isn't on point, especially today, your story better be damn great
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    I mean, I had never interacted with him or seen his channel before that tbh.
    It was actually on HelloGreedo's page I think.

    So yeah. Wasn't a great first impression from him
     
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    Impressive. Most impressive...

    To be honest though I had to stop watching after the Emperor used the word "temerity" :p I'm not sure why, but it made me cringe and didn't seem in character.

    But I skimmed through the rest and I agree it's very well done and put together, and I certainly don't want to undermine what they have achieved, but I suspect it relies on darkness and heavy colour filtering to hide its imperfections. For the most part, it's a very simple and quite a sparse and basic set in which most of the action takes place - there isn't really much there - whereas there is a lot more complexity and far greater attention to detail to the cityscape and set pieces of the Underworld test footage - and it's a lot bolder and clearer amd more vibrant.

    There is a scene in a long hallway in the Vader fan-film - which gets a bit showy with a low angle shot looking up at Vader and the trooper with the stained glass window in the background, but again it relies on darkness and looks a a bit video game-ish.

    Arguably so does the Underworld test footage, but it also it's also more intricately storyboarded I think, there's a lot more set decoration and attention to lighting objects. It's dark, but there's light as well. I don't know... I just think there are a number of things that lift it out of the fan-film category. But equally, I don't think it's impossible either. (shrug emoji goes here)
     
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    He's working on it. BTW, SW Theory is neither Reylo or Phandom Menace. He's a true neutral.
     
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