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SPECULATION 3 Jedi defenseless against Palpatine??

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Klai Kenobi, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. Klai Kenobi

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    No yeah, I said corky as in goofy. He's so full of evil he gets off on slaying and fighting the Jedi whom he hates more than anything. haha
     
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    People still not listening to my wisdom *shakes head*

    This guy knows what's up.

    It's very brief, and supposed to create a creepy impression of Palpatine as an unpredictable, predatory force of nature / truly dangerous opponent.

    That's why he doesn't flip around for the entire scene and it's one brief moment - fight's supposed to be heavy and dramatic, but there's just these few little glimpses of how physically and unnaturally superior he is.

    It doesn't "fit the character"? Well one factor that you've not considered is that this whole bit is supposed to reveal new "shocking" things about him that you haven't "seen for 3 movies".

    Why is most of this "prequel criticism" this tone deaf and sloppy, all the time?

    More pragmatic swordfighting realism in my stylized fantasy escapism, please.
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    No he doesn't lmao
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    It was dramatic stretching, so that the climactic finisher is "savoured properly" and not over in a blink of an eye.

    The editing isn't ideal though, a couple shots probably should've been like 0,4 seconds shorter - this way, suspension of disbelief isn't QUITE where it should be.

    But, who needs "nuance" anyway - the smuggest kino critics seem to do just fine without it.
     
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    I think you're overthinking it. The style of combat in the PT was acrobatic so they made him fight that way, even though it didn't fit. Something like Vader from Rogue One would have made sense.

    The PT is tone deaf and sloppy.
     
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    I felt the same as the OP until I read the excerpt from the novelization. Luckily it is relatively short (otherwise I wouldn't have read it). It is very descriptive and I feel adds more to what was actually shown in the film.

    Start in Part Three - Apocalypse (page 280 in the PDF). The battle ends on page 298 when, *SPOILER ALERT*, Windu dies.

    Could they have done a better job with the scene, yes I'm sure they could have. After reading this it gave me a better appreciation for just how powerful Palpatine really was.
     
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    No one was flipping like that aside from Yoda (minus the creepy factor) and Darth Maul, to an extent.

    I'm not overthinking anything, I assess films properly - unlike you.
     
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    I'm sorry but, please, explain me: what means "the OP" ? I often read this in various posts, I still don't know what it means - I always tend to read "Original Prequel" and something doesn't match because the T for Trilogy misses :) thank you
     
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    "Original Post" or 'poster' (person that penned the forum and original opinion/subject)
     
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    Thank you very much ;)
     
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    Obi-wan was doing more arobatic fighting in the TPM as well.

    So lets see - the two lightsaber battles in TPM have big acrobatic element. One of the two lightsaber battles in AotC's do. And at least 2 of hte 5 from RotS do. Ya....thats not an ongoing theme of lightsaber combat.

    And as for "it was surprising", it'd be surprising to see Kylo Ren fight Rey holding his lightrsaber in his feet, doesn't mean it'd be a good way to make the movie. As I said, showing Palpatine in the same light as vader at the end of Rogue One would been much better.
     
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    The fight scene was supposed to start with close-ups of the three Jedi Masters getting cut down in rapid succession. But for some reason, George decided to change it to medium-shots, which made everything seem quite slow.
     
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    Nowhere to that extent.

    There's only one - the other one was against a guy who could fly, and none of them were that big on "flipping" "around", it was mostly straight practical movements.

    What they do on the lava planet doesn't resemble that creepy Palpatine leap either - it's all big jumps across large distances.

    And saying the phrase "good way to make a kino" doesn't mean your comparison is any valid.
     
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    Well it all should have happend much slower than shown.
     
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