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RUMOR 3-minute Rogue One trailer to premier on ABC on July 15th

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Lord Skywalker, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. Lord Skywalker

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    Only things I really consider "spoilers" would be any Darth Vader scenes.
     
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    I wonder how much of that three minutes will be a blank back screen?
     
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    Less than TFA trailers and teasers.

    JJ isn't the director. Not trolling. JJ has a terrible habit of doing that not to mention using clips that aren't in the film.
    Full RO trailer will have meat to it, rather than being a huge middle finger and smokescreen.
     
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    The only things that I consider to be spoilers here are who dies among the main team (which they 100% won't intentionally show in a trailer), and Jyn's backstory and relationship with Galen (which they very well might).
     
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    Agreed no character deaths should be shown in the next trailer, I would like to see Galen seeing Jyn on a security monitor he then goes to confront her calling her by name which might explain her turn around scene.
     
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    But didn't these trailers (like most in Hollywood) get made by independent trailer companies?
     
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    An egomaniac paranoid OCD control freak like JJ doesn't just hand over all the film they have and say: "make me a trailer."

    I've heard conflicting versions of exactly cuts trailers, but I imagine the director hands over 5 or six minutes worth of film they've carefully chosen, and lets someone in house actually cut it. I could be wrong about the latter part, but no one can convince me JJ didn't choose the footage, as he has gone on (and on) record about how he hates trailers and thinks they all spoil the movie. Basically his attitude is "I'm JJ Abrams. Everyone should come see my movie without seeing a frame. MYSTERY BOX FOREVER!!" He appeared on the Howard Stern shows a few years ago, and essentially said that.
     
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    I kind of think Vader needs to be in it just a little. Something has to clarify to all the general movie goers kind of where in the timeline this movie is taking place. Oh and please.....dont just put him breathing in there. :rolleyes:
     
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    Frankly, I'm getting very sick of the Catch-22 professional and amateur fanboys have created for trailers. Obviously you're being facetious about the breathing thing, but when this trailer was discussed on Jedi Council (without having seen it or read anything that detailed it's contents) they vacillated between excitement and worry that "a 3 minute trailer might give too much away."

    Over the course of three full trailers, Batman V Superman was certainly spoiled, for the most part. That was the exception rather than the rule

    But all information about a movie is a "spoiler." This constant fretting over whether a trailer will give too much away is silly. As soon as a trailer release date is announced, the first reaction is worrying about it spoiling the movie.
    The only spoiler free trailer is one with the title and the release date.
     
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    I agree as far as people obsessing over "spoiler free" teasers/trailers. I don't get why this is such a big deal especially now a days. Trailers back in the day had voice overs that explained what was happening lol. Vader appearing in the trailer is surely NOT a spoiler. He is going to be in the movie. We already know that. Putting him in not only clarifies timeline but reels in everyone. Vader IS Star Wars. They would be silly to not show him even if it's for 3 seconds.
     
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    I agree with all of that, especially Vader being in this trailer. The spoiler thing isn't new. ESB, ROTJ, Back to the future II & III, all were protected by high levels of security. Fans have always wanted to get advance information about upcoming sequels or projects based on established intellectual properties.

    Only recently have they started whining about getting it.
     
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    That would be cruel if only his breathing was involved, I can't wait to see a imperial shuttle arrival entrance, that's his way to arrive. (star destroyer)(vader)
     
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    Or we will see a quick glimpse of him bowing down to a hologram ;) .
     
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    Not all information is a spoiler. The term means information that will spoil the film. While this is subjective I think most can agree

    * If a trailer had Vaders "No, I am your father" line, that's a spoiler
    * The soylent green trailer has the "soylent green is people!" line in it, which is a major reveal of the movie
    * Terminator salvation shows you that a certain character is actually a robot, but the film makes it a big reveal
    * The first TFA trailer isn't full of spoilers. The existence of a girl in the desert hardly ruins the film.

    People are rightly worried since many trailers seem to be 2 min summaries for the movie. I don't think star wars has had this problem, but 3 mins is also much longer than a normal trailer.
     
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    Well SHOULDN'T a movie trailier show the narrative...i mean that's what the entire point of a trailer is...sort of like window shopping for potential viewers.
     
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    I think you have a much more...enlightened sense of what constitutes a spoiler.

    That first TFA teaser wasn't full of spoilers...except that Boyega was a stormtrooper apparently on the run (the imperial probe droid signal is a big tipoff). I'm not complaining, but it's a spoiler.

    The trailer for ESB reveals that Han & Leia encounter Vader and are captured. Heck, it even shows Lando is their captor and Lando in the same scene where they meet Vader.

    John schnep from Collider would lose his chill and proclaim "worst trailer ever" (sorry but that dude really is Comic Book Guy).

    YouTube, screen grabs, blogs, and the general treatment of entertainment news has changed how we treat trailers. I'm guilty of it.

    I LOOOOVE those trailer breakdowns on fan sites and "professional" entertainment news sites (sorry screenrant, but if I'd submitted any of those stories to my 8th grade English teacher, I'd have gotten an F- and the teacher would have recommended I go back to elementary school.), but those breakdowns were impossible until well into the 2000s. We have forgotten. How to just watch a trailer and say, "that's interesting and exciting, I can't wait to see how that fits into the film." We now MUST KNOW EXACTLY WHAT EVERY SHOT IS ABOUT.

    Again, I'm guilty as anyone.

    What I've tried to do ever since TFA broke lots of rules with the second teaser and only trailer (and this applies to all movie trailer I see now), is view it as it is meant: a commercial, not s treasure map or false lead. I'm going enjoy the preview and bounce around ideas. I'm not going to worry about the movie being ruined or be freaked out if it's a "bad trailer."

    It's 3 minutes out of 90+, really 60 since very little of the third act will be shown.

    And really, we can't be sure of what's spoilers until the movie premieres.

    And if the trailer makes it seem like the movie will be bad (as a few seem to always assume right after a trailer), there's nothing we can do to improve the movie. Basically everyone on this board will see it opening weekend (and decide for themselves). All we can do is watch, enjoy, wonder, and wait.

    Rant over.

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    I'm going to stop posting and just like all of yours. You're saying what I think with great economy of language and in a much less abrasive way. On second thought, screw your for ruining it for the rest of us. Taking the high road has no place in an Internet message board.
     
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    Well none of the marketing for TFA truly qualified as an actual trailer until the international one .
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    The only blank screen they will have is for title sequences .
     
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    The original, un-neutered Rogue One might have had a few interesting scenes here and there, but we'll never get to see that version. Because Disney's gotta protect those younglings fragile minds from being exposed to excessive violence. Or something.

    More likely though, they couldn't let Vader come across as too strong (y'know, basically be himself) because that might undermine whatever her name's character is, who most likely will be a Mary Sue just like Rey was in TFA.

    If you don't eat your meat you can't have any pudding, how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat? If Vader makes whatever her name is look weaker, how can she be a Mary Sue? How can she be a Mary Sue if Vader makes her look weaker?

    So....lets bring that bar down, shall we....and *vader voice* "then together we shall have equality and social justice for all."
     
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    3 min it's too long for the first real trailer.
    I'd be ok if it was the final. But...we'll see...we'll see
     
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    That's an interesting non sequitur.

    I award you no points. And may Zod have mercy on your soul.

    Okay, anyway.... I'll bite.




    I think Rey is the Mary Sue for now. These RO characters seem doomed. We all know their info leads to the destruction of the DS (spoiler alert...given your post, I honestly don't know if you're over 14...that's certainly what I would've written at that age), so their deaths would not be a downer ending.

    Am I the only one who thinks RO ends up being like the Usual suspects in Space without Kaiser Sosay ending?
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    The first and "only trailer" for TFA according to JJ was the one shown on MNF. Though given JJ's habit of lying and revisionist history, who knows what that SOS considers a trailer for his...film.
     
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