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3 Reasons only Ben Solo can successfully re-start the Jedi Order

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by techsteveo, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. nightangel

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    As I decribed a post before, broom boy was already influenced by Rose with the ring and could have started a rebellion without Luke doing anything.

    I have no doubt they may go for a redemption route (or say it with other words, the ROTJ reboot is complete). But it is nothing satisfying in any way. I don't want this terrible monster redeemed.
     
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    I don't think a kid can start a rebellion.

    There is no way to remake ROTJ, especially not after TLJ.
     
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    12 random soldiers can't do it either. And by IX broom kid may not be a normal kid anymore, he may be a wonderkid to start a rebellion with his former kid friends. :)
     
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    My two cents: There will be Jedi (plural) at the end of IX - but no Order.
     
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    Trained soldiers, two of them are leaders. Yes, they can build a rebellion. Leia already did it twice. Broom boi won't appear in IX btw.
     
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    I so don't get the obsession some seem to have with broom boy.
     
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    I think the Rebellion is going to build itself through the inspiration of Luke's act of Legendary power in the face of the First Order. Rey made a point to say that the First Order would have control of all major star systems within weeks. We can assume that doesn't happen now considering the damage to Snoke's ship, Snoke being dead, etc. Those star systems will now have the courage to fight. It's kind of a parallel to Star Wars Rebels victory on Lothal.

    The Jedi Order won't be rebuilt in IX, but I think we are pretty much assured Rey and company will be passing on the knowledge for a new form of Force users. I just hope Ben Solo is part of that rebuilding.
     
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    I will cry like a baby if we don't get Ben Solo back and if he doesn't survive Episode IX.
     
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    I think Finn will eventually lead the new Jedi Order, after the death of Rey and Ren. Would be kind of cool for IX to open with Rey teaching Finn about the Force. He could be all "I can't use the Force!" and she'd be like "It's in all of us, you just have to believe in yourself".

    Then at the end of the film, when Rey and Ben save the galaxy in some fantastically powerful and romantic display of Force, Finn will be the only one left to build the Jedi. And by then he will know how the Force works...

    This way, the crazy powerful beings who dominated galactic events (Skywalker's) and who spawned other immensely powerful Force users (Rey), will be no more - leaving the galaxy in the hands of more ordinary Jedi and Force users to make for a new and more interesting future conflict.
     
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    I think Finn shouldn't be FS because it makes him more special without the force. But I like the idea of Rey and Ren dying. => destruction of the force maybe?
     
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    2 contrasting views! lol
    the force won't be destroyed... as Luke so profoundly said.. he will not be the last Jedi !

    I love the idea of Rey teaching Finn to find the force, even if it's only on a small level.

    as each day passes, the more i want Ben to survive.. even if it has to be the naughty masked bad boy version.
     
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    Everyone is Force sensitive though. Their ability to use it depends upon their discipline and practice. Of course, it comes easier to some more than others. But I feel that what makes Finn a great candidate isn't the idea that he could use the Force but that he is selfless, brave and moral.
     
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    As each day passes, the more I want Ben to die. :p
     
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    [​IMG] :p
     
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    Hasn't the Skywalker family suffered enough?
     
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    Yes, and so thus they pain needs to end. :p Yeah, yeah it's more likely that Ben ends the curse and survives.
     
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    If Ben has to die, I want Rey to die with him, tbh.
     
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    Ben Solo/Kylo Ren will not restart the Jedi Order. Whether he is capable or not, which I believe he is -- he's unwilling, too fragmented, and unpredictable. This is a damaged man that the Resistance is going up against. He can be redeemed and brought back to the light, but to allow him to be the leader of the New Jedi would be a horrible idea.

    Rey can be the leader of the new Jedi, she has the books as you mentioned, and I think with guidance from Luke's force ghost perhaps -- she could be successful in reigniting a new generation and new order of Jedi
     
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    What curse?
     
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    The curse of bringing pain and darkness into the galaxy. That is what the Skywalkers accomplished so far...
     
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