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Ava DuVernay Isnt Interested In Directing Star Wars

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    Director Ava DuVernay has revealed that she doesn't have plans to direct a Star Wars movie in spite of making a suggestion toward J. J. Abrams about the climactic lightsaber duel in The Force Awakens... And perhaps that's for the best.





    Not that long ago, we heard rumors that Lucasfilm is quietly looking into some directors and writers to handle future Star Wars projects, but there's not a plan to reveal them just yet because Lucasfilm isn't ready to announce the plans it has for Star Wars movies after Episode IX. One of the only names that were publicly discussed was DuVernay's, with her movie A Wrinkle In Time apparently serving as a litmus test to see if she was capable of handling a bigger movie, as the company has proudly stated that it is the first $100M+-budgeted movie to be handled by a nonwhite, female director. And many a fan has included DuVernay as a pick for their 'Top Whatever People To Direct A Star Wars Movie Next', so it almost seems natural to assume that she'd be right for the project.



    Unfortunately, regardless of whether or not DuVernay passed Lucasfilm's internal litmus test, she just revealed that she doesn't think she's right for Star Wars through her Twitter:








    Thus far, DuVernay's most recent (and most expensive) movie A Wrinkle In Time has received mixed reviews from critics, with the visuals and creativity used to bring the world to life being praised, yet elements tied to the story itself coming up short of the promise she's shown with her earlier work like the MLK biopic Selma or the documentary 13th. Perhaps a more lukewarm reception to her film has cooled her on the idea of doing another major tentpole picture for a while, or perhaps DuVernay wasn't as invested in the Galaxy Far, Far Away as we were previously led to believe. Audiences might be more supportive of her film, but ultimately, it's her call to make whether she looks to develop a movie for this iconic setting. We at SWNN wish Mrs. DuVernay the best of luck in her future endeavors all the same.





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    Thank goodness. To me she’s always been the most overhyped name among rumoured Star Wars directors. I'm not saying she's a bad filmmaker and I'm not saying I'm certain her SW movie would be bad, but there's absolutely nothing in her resume that would make me think she's a right fit. When it comes to future directors involved with the franchise, I need to see elements of the Star Wars DNA in their body of work. Otherwise, I won’t be comfortable with the choice.

    Star Wars is the top league. There’s no place for experiments as far as directors go and I think LFL has learned it the hard way. By experiments I mean hiring inexperienced people and those whose bread and butter is something completely different than Star Wars.
     
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    Maybe not now, maybe in the future.
     
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    Really felt like she was being groomed for a SW flick.
    Wonder if the addition of Favreau amidst the AWIT slogging is their way of ending the hype that was "Ava for Star Wars"
     
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    Well Wrinkle looks like a commercial and critical flop so I really do not care.
     
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    She was, according to Jordan Maison. She could still produce something.
    It bugs me that people are getting their pants in a knot over the idea of a white man producing a show, ignoring the fact that he's talented at what he does (Cowboys & Aliens aside) and that he helped launch the biggest film franchise of all time - because, by this logic, your background should determine whether or not you're qualified to make a movie. Favreau producing doesn't, at all, preclude women from contributing to the creative process on the project, and if anything, we'll likely get our first female directors for a major Star Wars project out of the series.
     
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    I think it has a lot to do with a tone deaf timing. They could have announced it yesterday or tomorrow and they did it on the International Women's Day. Favreau is Disney's darling right now and he made some good films in his career, I'm sure he'll do well.

    As for Ava, if she's not interested, she's not interested. There are people in this world who do not see themselves creatively in Star Wars and that's all right. I'm sure she'll do just fine. It's just funny to me how the fans called her name out before to direct and now are, sort of, washing their hands after critics panned her film.
     
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    Claiming that innocent piece of movie news is inappropriate because it's women's day is just too much... I've seen people who see it that way. Quite ridiculous IMO.
     
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    I still think he writes the first two episodes then just produces.
    A female writer *cough*CLAUDIAGRAY*cough could be brought in to write more
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    But how many people knew it was International Women's Day last night?
    I didn't know until I got on Twitter this morning. And I am woke-ish
     
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    If by "funny" you mean "sad", then I agree with you. I still plan on giving the movie a shot, but I think it needs to be said that not every director who you want to make a Star Wars movie will make one. I'd like David Fincher (who did work on ROTJ, just so we're clear) to do a gritty crime movie set on Nar Shaddaa, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get it.
     
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    I want my Guillermo del Toro Star Wars monster movie but I know I will never get it.
    Doesn't mean I haven't watched it 20 times in my head.
     
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    Inappropriate? No. Tone deaf, as I said? Yes. Because, Kennedy herself (whom I will personally defend from so much crap and hate she gets every day) said that they would diversify people who work on the movies behind the scenes a couple of years ago. And yet, every announced person was a white man. Announcing it a day later, a day earlier wouldn't change a thing. Favreau would still be a good choice and some people would still complain, but I don't think as many. I do wonder if uncle Iger planned another conference call and they hurried to announce it before he spilled the beans like with so many other things. :D
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    Well, that too. Every director has a misfire, it doesn't erase their talent. But, some fans will always have a knee jerk reaction.
     
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    Favreau is a good choice (as you pointed out), which means there's nothing wrong with him being a white male. That's why any kind of comments about his race/gender are not cool. Regardless of timing. Women's Day is no reason to censor news.
     
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    So, it's not all right to censor news (which no one suggested, btw, just questioned their timing), but it is all right to censor people's perception of the said news? Can't you see how hypocritical that is? Because, perception is not wrong.

    Favreau, regardless of his pedigree, is the ninth white man (I'm not completely sure about the number, so many were fired) selected to shepherd a project in the new Lucasfilm era. Fans all clamor for the 'right person' for the project, but they don't ever seem to question the selection process of that right person that always gives the same result. I know it's not popular to question it especially when the choice is liked as much as Happy Hogan, but people should be able to.

    Why is it a bad thing to say that a little awareness of the wider implications of this announcement on this particular date would be good for everyone involved? I don't understand that. Why is it a bad thing to question their selection process?
     
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    I didn't say it's right to "censor perception." It's not even possible. I said it's not cool to take shots at a filmmaker because of his gender/race. And that's the underlying narrative when there are complaints he's not someone else than a white male. People see timing as a big deal in this case because such mentality is a thing.

    I see no reason to question the selective process when the result is good, but sure, you are able to do it. It's not always fair, though.

    Besides, "the same result" you're talking about is an unfortunate generalisation. Filmmakers they've chosen are not the same person. There's more to them than their skin colour and gender.
     
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    Here's a theory:

    Female directors see what happened to JJ Abrams (after TFA) and Rian (after TLJ) and basically have said "no Maclunkey thanks. we can already have a hard enough time in hollywood (which is true) and we don't need to be the one who 'kills Star Wars' if they did what they did to Rian imagine what they'd do to a female director"

    Taking on Star Wars is a task and a half. You have to deal with the fact that half the fan base will hate you for making a rehash and the other half will hate you for making something different.
    A small but loud portion of the fan base has been against this ever since Rey was a lady force user and make no effort to really hide it. Why would they accept a female director?

    Woke Conspiracy aside....

    We are talking about this, not the poster controversy so Disney wins.
     
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    If they are attacking Favreau, like personally, that's just dumb and unfortunate. The actual valuable complaints should be aimed at Lucasfilm. Timing was tone deaf, but I don't think it was malicious.

    The thing is, we still don't know the result - that will come later when the show is released. You can argue that the choice is backed by Favreau prolific background.

    Yes, it's generalization because that is the only thing they have in common. Some of them had only one or two successful projects, others had life long careers. There must be others who are just like them career wise, but differ in gender or color. There must be. It's the question of opportunities.

    That's it. No one in the right mind would be against Favreau because of his race and gender. But people should and must wonder if others are offered the same opportunity as the long line of his colleagues who are just like him.

    I bet there are many women and people of color who care about Star Wars and would be able and willing take up the challenge. Is it HUGE TASK? Yes. Can anyone do it? No. But, is it just one group of people that can do it? Decidedly not.

    It's that simple. You don't need (or should) to attack anyone (regardless who they are) who got the job to ask for the opportunities to be opened to more people. We just need to see those opportunities realized in more than just words.

    Star Wars is so many different things to so many different people for so many different reasons. Imagine what those different voices and points of view could do for Star Wars. Imagine if the world could get even richer and bigger. It is possible to be better even for Star Wars.
     
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    That's a good point. And as we've seen, some fans are pretty openly hostile toward women. There'd unfortunately be a not insignificant portion of the fanbase openly rooting against her just because of that.
     
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    I don't doubt that many WANT to do it. But it could be a career ruiner. Women flat out don't get the chances in film making men do to rebound from a bad film. My point is, maybe no woman right now, wants to be that sacrificial lamb led to slaughter. You'd need an established director with the ability to say "Look at my resume, now shut the Blast up" when people begin to Vhlor. The problem is, are THOSE women the ones interested? Kathryn Bigelow (god please yes) looks more interested in staying firmly in her own little sphere which is fine. Not like PTA is jumping at these chances either. Or Lexi Alexander who just wouldn't give two shits either way.

    I think a Favreau produced show is the perfect place to start working in these directors. Because on a show, even when it's the director who stinks, the producer/showrunner always gets the blame. (Look no further than Star Wars' own Benioff and Weiss lol)

    Lucasfilm is run by a woman. The story group is run by people of color and women.
    The last 3 films have had female LEADS. Solo will be the first under Kennedy that will have a male lead.
    Their novels are written by an incredibly diverse group.

    I know that the director's chair is what everyone is looking at (seems odd that THAT is what we have singled out) but Lucasfilm is honest to god MILES ahead of most other studios and it just feels so pedantic to worry about WHEN Kennedy announced this.
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    It's such a small portion but sadly we've seen in many fandoms, a small portion can entirely derail the discussion
     
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    And writers and producers and show runners and cinematographers and... pick any key behind the scenes position. We had a couple of female editors on TFA and that's it. It is a female led company with three female-led movies and neither the company nor the movies are nowhere near to reflecting either the industry or the real world. In Rogue One alone we had 2-3 speaking female roles (Jyn, Mon, Leia) compared to 20-30 male speaking roles. TLJ was the closest one. But, Lucasfilm isn't that ahead as it seems - if at all. And I can only speak about women, I am not informed well enough to talk about people of color.

    You are right that for a woman directing could be a big set back if not career explosion if it doesn't works out. That's also the problem, but a completely different one. But, I don't believe that no one wants that opportunity if it's offered. Also, that no one wants to write the script, produce, film, makes costumes... No one? Really? I seriously doubt it.

    I am not saying - NOT AT ALL - that they should start hiring anyone willy-nilly or to fulfill some quota, which would be insulting in and on its own. But, offer opportunities for all these positions? It's questionable that they couldn't and that there was no one qualified and willing to fill them. But, things are the way they are. I hope they'll change and for benefit of everyone. Especially Star Wars.
     
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