"Fixing" the Knights of Ren

There were two ways to handle The Knights of Ren.

1. Leave them alone as a line similar to "You fought in the Clone Wars?!" of ANH to play with later when you can make the Knights of Ren a big focal point in his rise to power.

2. Build them into the story intrinsically as you have suggested. Using them to foster the connection with Exogol would have helped a lot.

 

Whenever I hear someone online giving their advice on problems and how to fix them; I'm sure their fixes sound to them like they're composing the Moonlight Sonata. But to me, it's sounds of a callback to this great scene:

 

At the risk of more clarinetting.

I would have them to have a bigger role. Especially with Kylo being the Supreme Leader they should have shown them as more crucial.

More action sequences.
1- Subduing Chewy
2- Why only stormtroopers in the Passana speeder chase.
3- Showing them alongside Kylo in the battle on Mustafar.

Showing them alongside Kylo on Exegol and bowing at the sight of Palpatine (making it clear that they saw him as the new master.)

 

That would have been SO FREAKING AWESOME!

 

The way to fix it is for fans not to get fixated on a cool uniform/armor/costuming. We had this in every trilogy and for characters that really didnt do much on screen.

Boba Fett and other bounty hunters
Captain Phasma
Aurra Sing
Imperial Guards
Knights of Ren

 

Constable Zuvio would have handed them their butts. I imagine. Whoever he is.

 

One scene I disliked of them was when they were on top of that cliff/rock, whatever and the camera is panning around them like some 80's rock video. It was silly.

 

Yep.

It's as much a trope in Star Wars as anything. And their line of introduction doesn't NEED expanding in the film. That's a very modern thing where every line like that HAS to be expanded upon. Some threads can just be left undone for other times. It's okay for mystery.

 

Yeah I got the feeling that JJ was saying "Thought the helicopter shot at the iris out of TFA was cheesy? Check this out!"

 

After the KOR scene, all I could think about was Rian Johnson’s quote about them, and started laughing.

“I guess I could’ve used them in place of the Praetorian guards but then it would feel like wasting them because all those guards had to die. And if Kylo had some kind of connection to them it would’ve added a complication that wouldn’t have helped the scene… Truth is, I just didn’t see a place for them in the movie.” Source

 

Nah... what we got was enough. The KOR where nothing more then a cool background for the movie. They were mentioned in TFA, and we saw them in this movie. They filled their role as hencemen for Ren, and then logically turned on him when he turned to the light side. Their fight with Ben was a simple story telling element used to show that Ben was indeed a good guy now. That's all they were needed for. Anything else would have been a pointless use of screen time as there were much more important story elements to show the audience.

So they weren't underused, they were used perfectly to serve the story we got.

 

Don't forget the Sith Fleet and Sith Troopers!

Truthfully, I don't expect anything when new troopers or ships are introduced. But I like them and think they're a small part of what makes Star Wars, well, Star Wars. They can add excitement and fun to a new place (U-Wings changing how we view battles, Gorilla Walkers proving that the F.O. is learning from past mistakes, Scout Troopers and their bikes to provide a fast and fun forest fight in flight in ROTJ), but mostly they're useless.

I guess we thought the KoR would be different because Abrams seemed really excited about them (showing an interest in their backstory, having all the concept art and the weird ForceVision scene) but couldn't fit them in. And also because they were Darksiders that weren't Sith, and that's always a fun and creative thing. It's why the Nightsisters are so cool. But then they were used like everything else. And that's not surprising, just disappointing. I was excited about Charles Soule's new comic before TROS, even if I wasn't the largest fan of Kylo Ren. But now...maybe I'll pick it up after it's complete, but I honestly don't care as of right now.

 

One might ask what the KOR we’re doing on Exegol at the end. I like to think that the KOR were actually acolytes of the Sith rather than just servants of Kylo. That is why they were so quick turn against Ben when he arrives.

 

November Rain played in my head when I saw that scene first time.

 

Agree.

But people will say that they were created only to sell toys.

 

Kylo and the KOR should have been the main villains of TROS. If I had to make TROS, then I would have personified one KOR. For example I would have used a female KOR who has a crush on Kylo (or at least she has a crush on the Supreme Leader's power). As soon as Kylo gets redeemed, she takes the place of the main villain.
The funny thing is Colin Trevorrow did something quite similar in his version of EPIX.

Another possibility would have been that Hux orders the KOR to kill Kylo.