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SPECULATION Palpatine in IX??

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Trevor, Oct 12, 2018.

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Is it feasible that we could see Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious in IX?

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  1. Angelman

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    So, thinking out loud here… Palpatine was (according to himself) able to foresee the future and scheme accordingly. He didn’t (we presume) foresee his death at the hands of Darth Vader, and he seemed entirely convinced that Luke posed no threat to him in the throne room, but nevertheless we know he made contingencies against the Empire going on without him. So, what if he foresaw Rey? (Or Kylo, but let’s stick with Rey now). What if he foresaw a chance to influence the future, in the future, by planting a holocron or whatever for Rey to find? We could get a nice tying-it-all-together exposition scene along with a great temptation moment for Rey. I would absolutely love this! As a bonus, we’d get more Ian McDiarmid, and we can never get enough of him :D

    Please, sweet Whills, let it be so!

    PS: It could also work well for Kylo, with a pre-recorded message from Paply saying things like, “It was I who turned your grandfather to the Dark Side, and I who facilitated your eventual rise to power. Now, here’s a list of stuff I want you to do *hands over evil contingency instructions*”
     
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    So replace one shriveled emperor who was thankfully cut in half in the last movie and replace him with the other shriveled emperor who got thrown down a well 35 years ago. Sounds like a fan idea all right.
     
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    I’m torn about this - it would be cool to see Palpatine if it was done appropriately (he stays dead and doesn’t come back as a ghost) - but if they are going to find a way to include a presence from a deceased non-Jedi character, I’m 50/50 thinking I might rather see Han. And it would be pretty tough to incorporate two deceased non-Jedi characters...
     
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    A sequel character in a prequel environment. This could be so cool.
    Would love to see Coruscant again.
    Mustafar is a good option and I think Tatooine has to be there, and the circle will be complete.
    The excitement is real.
     
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    If done right then I would not be against seeing Palps in IX. Bringing him back from the dead, having a clone of him would not be doing it right. However, If we see som sort of flashback or Holocron recording of a past Palpatine then that would be ok.

    As much as I think it would be cool to see use of PT planets (Mustafar, Coruscant, Naboo would all be neat) I’m not holding my breath. We will probably get some PT references but I’m not expecting anything more.
     
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    These are the only two ways I could see Palpatine in IX. Other than these two options, I honestly wouldn't care. Have him or don't, it's fine I guess.
     
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    We don't need Palpatine anymore, thank you.
     
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    Palps in flashback would be cool.... especially to help tell Snoke’s back story
     
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    I say no, just because the clear intent of the new writing is to cut ties with the old school. Virtually everyone is dead, either in script or real life, and all us "venerable" original fans from the 70's are no longer a target audience. The new generation of films will try to distance itself as far as possible from the past, and there is TONS of other story line yet to be explored. Yes I can see some references and maybe a few straggling characters, but all eyes are on the future. Personally, I don't find Palpatine or Darth Vader remotely interesting anymore, much like 3PO or R2. Having any of them in the next films would be like having Bela Lugosi trying to spice up a James Bond movie. Let it rest; the old series belong in a museum.
     
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    I don’t really agree with that. 3PO and R2 are the sort of characters you can keep forever. They still work with the new audiences, they don’t age or die like actors do... They are also part of the context more than the story, like chewie, like the Millenium Falcon. Palpatine is different though. He’s had his day, his story has been told. He has nothing to add. The droids, however, offer comic relief and links to the past in a subtle, indirect manner. For me 3PO and R2 are the essence of the SW I care about and I hope they are carried forward in some shape or form.

    I also hope that RJ comes out with characters as emblematic as these two robots in his own trilogy. I’m looking forward to him creating an original robot or creature with a very defined personality for his series to have a distinctive stamp.
     
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    Every possibility I think through would need more than one 3 hour movie to make it work. If we see Palpatine it would have to be in either a recording of some kind or something akin to Darth Bane speaking to Yoda in Clone Wars. I think I'm retired from the speculating business when it comes to Star Wars. It used to be the most fun part until they decided that subverting ALL expectations was a good idea.
     
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    I don't need a clone or anything, but I would like to feel Palpatine's presence in IX. We always talk about the Saga as the Skywalker story, but the first six movies are almost just as much about Palpatine. His complete absence from the sequels feels a little strange, at least to me. If his machinations were somehow still at work, even in his death, it would unify the Saga and add some gravity to the current threat (as I've posted elsewhere, the First Order still feels like a shallow threat unless it somehow ties into the greater Saga).
     
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    The FO and Snoke are both lame attempts at resurrecting the Empire and Palpatine. Rey is lame attempt at Luke 2.0. The only character that was interesting was the slicer DJ.

    That was a good character and perfect actor. True Scoundrel worthy of Han Solo.
     
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    They've been trying that with the BB droids I guess, though they're certainly not as colorful or endearing as the old ones. I guess the thing with the droids is that they don't just get old and die off, they're either destroyed or decommissioned. For me I guess it just gets boring though. It would be cool to see 3PO get in a fighter with R2 and bumble his way though a battle, or anything rather than just being some ridiculous source of slap-stick. It starts to tarnish the charm of the original series, although it's good in a sense that they are featured in such a limited role now. Thanks for sharing your response!
     
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    It's almost as if George Lucas had no plan and was just making it all up as he went along.
     
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    Not sure what you're getting at here, TBH. My point is that the Lucas films (I - VI) are actually intricately planned and unified by Palpatine's evil schemes. The sequels, however, don't seem to be planned to the same level of intricacy -- at least, the present threat doesn't seem woven into the saga in any way.
     
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    My bad. For some reason your reference to 'sequel trilogy' read in my mind as 'original trilogy', which I don't agree were 'intricately planned'. I thought you were suggesting he was largely absent and insignificant as a character in the OT (which I think is the case!).

    With that in mind, I was suggesting I doubt GL had given a lot of thought to Palpatine's back story when he wrote the OT. He was - to some extent - making it up as he went along, just introducing the Emperor as we know him in ROTJ and then worked backwards from there to write him into the prequels.

    I'd agree though that the prequel trilogy at least is almost just as much about Palpatine - I've said before that I think the PT is best viewed as the story of Palpatine's rise to power.
     
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    This is such an accurate statement
     
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    When rumblings started about the possibility of Palpatine in Episode IX started, I kind of cringed. But then I remembered the Holocrons. And I think that Kylo Ren may possibly discover a Sith Holocron created by Palpatine / Darth Sidious. Given Kylo Ren's fixation on some relics (the Vader helmet, the Skywalker lightsaber, etc), I could see the potential for him to seek out a holocron.
     
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