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OFFICIAL NEWS A Lasting Record Of TLJ's Financial Performance.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Pomojema, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. Nick Skywalker

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    The Last Jedi has minted the fourth best Tuesday in December with $20.4M raising its running domestic cume through five days to $262M.

    http://deadline.com/2017/12/star-wars-the-last-jedi-tuesday-rakes-in-20-4m-1202230506/

    Tuesday’s gross is just 5% off from Monday’s $21.55M. That’s excellent weekday money and phenomenal hold. But if any cynics are wondering why Last Jedi isn’t busting past Tuesday records it’s only because there are still plenty of schools in session. Yesterday, ComScore reported 17% K-12 schools out. Today that figure jumps to 24%, then 39% on Thursday and 61% on Friday. Force Awakens owns the top and third best Tuesday at the B.O. ever with respectively $37.3M (Dec. 22) and $29.5M (Dec. 29).
     
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    Disney couldn't cover up a spat with The LA Times. Do you really think they could cover up a massive journalistic conspiracy over reviews for a movie that doesn't need any critical support to succeed?
     
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    well is known that sequels doesnt get the same revenues that the previous movies... ESB also suffered of that
     
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    Not right... My thread for TFA had that movie at about $247M three days after opening while TLJ was at $220M at the same point. Overseas, it was $281M with TFA and $230M with TLJ.

    The more recent numbers, as of the fifth day of play domestically, put TFA at $325.4M against TLJ's $261.8M, against an overseas totals of $364M and $274.8 respectively. Bear in mind that TFA was an overperformer and TLJ is still pulling in great numbers, it's just that there seems to be less repeat business for the movie during the weekdays (which, again, is not an issue - usually, Christmas is when the box office really explodes).

    The fact of the matter is that there were a number of markets where TFA was marketed as being huge and the people seeing it didn't quite get the hype. So expectations for TLJ are a bit lower overseas. Jumanji was a wild card but I'm thinking it will do well - the thing is that the market is overloaded with movies this weekend and I think there's enough competition for Star Wars to stick to the top.
     
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    As much as I didn't like TLJ, it's ridiculous when people claim Disney are paying critics. It's BS.

    Speaking of it's financial performance though, let's wait and see how well TLJ performs this coming weekend. Jumanji isn't the only wildcard that might pull huge audiences from TLJ, there's also Pitch Perfect 3, Downsizing, and Ferdinand which is already playing. Out of those 4, I guess Jumanji is the one capable of attracting the most wide audiences since it's a funny action-adventure which people of all ages can enjoy. PP3 will draw the teen girls, Ferdinand the kids and their parents, and Downsizing older millennials and above. TLJ is for everyone though, so it's really just Jumanji.
     
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    Compaing TFA with TLJ is useless TFA was the first movie in 10 years since the premier of Revenge and was the sequel movie that many fans waited for 32 years, still dont understand why people keep underestimating how much of an event TFA was. And by seeing the numbers is similar in how Rogue One was doing it
     
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    And not near as many kiddies out! TFA’s prime audience.
     
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    Well, here's how I look at the box office and the problems that might come up. TFA had a perfect situation fall into it's lap. The way Christmas fell and the kids (in the USA) were off of school, it was the perfect storm for the movie. TFA opens on the 17th, gets great word of mouth everywhere, and bam, all the kids are off of school right out of the gate. So that word of mouth generated into parents willing to take their kids to go see TFA.

    Now that's the crux here for The Last Jedi... all those kids that people are saying will be rushing to the theaters next week when schools go on break, well it's the parents that are paying, and the parents will have a say in what movie they spend their money on. Right now, The Last Jedi, while it enjoyed a huge OW, doesn't have that universal word of mouth that TFA had. So now, parents are hearing about the controversies surrounding TLJ, for an entire week, and it might.... might scare a lot of parents into steering their kids towards a movie that they feel their kids will enjoy more, and more worth the dollars they are spending. Now, I am sure TLJ is gonna get a pick me up in that week the kids are off of school, but, I don't think it's going to be as good as many are expecting.

    TLJ has to get thru an entire week of conflict, before it gets to that week of kids of vacation. I think Jumanji will be seen as a safer bet by many parents for the movie experience that week. Just my two cents...

    Edit: oh and that doesn't mean I think Jumanji beats TLJ, I am just saying I think Jumanji will eat away more at TLJ BO (than some expect) because it will be seen by many parents as a safer movie to take their kids too that the kids will enjoy thus making the money spent worth it.
     
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    Its the same situation as ESB and ANH. Former was a sequel and did worse, latter is original movie and insane BO.

    Same with TFA and TLJ. TFA had insane “first sw in ten years angle and sequel to OT” marketing.

    TLJ will have a 45-55% drop in second week. Completely normal for a modern blockbuster. Its already second biggest opening behind TFA.
    Money is already insane $$$.

    Also you underestimate power of annoying nagging “mommy I wanna see TLJ” kids. They are annoying little whippersnappers.
     
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    Yes, the money is already insane, but, that was pre-orders built off the hype of TFA and not because of the quality of the actual movie that is TLJ. So as I said, I don't think TLJ will get as big a boost during that week the kids are off, as it seems many think it will That's all I was saying...
     
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    Ah ok. Sorry, been arguing this point a lot today! :)
     
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    Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle's first day is in, and it's less than half of what Star Wars: The Last Jedi pulled in. So while it will be the big competition this weekend, Star Wars will likely reign supreme.
     
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    Yeah. SW is just going to crush everything.

    "Rubs hands together"

    Excellent excellent...though I feel bad for other movies.
     
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    This article from Forbes is a good read. lel
     
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    Not sure if serious, or sarcastic.

    "Narrows eyes"
     
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    Yeah, we're cheering for Star Wars at the box office, and Disney are probably rubbing their hands together right now too.
     
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    Disney is getting the whole Xmas turkey! Dry gizzards and all!
     
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    Mendelson's analysis often drips with sarcasm. Which is part of the reason I find him so entertaining to read.
     
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    Which just goes to demonstrate how much of an outlier TFA really is in terms of blockbusters. Remarkable.

    Meanwhile, the estimates for Thursday sure make it look like TLJ doesn't have to worry about Jumanji taking the top spot. The real question will be how well it does on its sophomore outing - and so far, the results for this week indicate that the drop should be in the 50%-60% range or so. (Note that this does not count the forthcoming Christmas Day gross, which falls on a Monday; counting that, the movie's weekend will likely be in the 40%-50% range.)
     
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