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OFFICIAL NEWS A Lasting Record Of TLJ's Financial Performance.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Pomojema, Dec 6, 2017.

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    Opening weekend to Day 7 dom. gross cume increase percentage (higher is better)

    The Force Awakens - 36.56%
    Rogue One - 30.14%
    Jurassic World - 29.51%
    The Last Jedi - 25.73%
    The Avengers - 23.18%
    Batman v Superman - 20.60%
     
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    Force awakens-argued to hell and back, opened on a school free week one later than TLJ and had insane marketing angle of first SW film in ten years. TLJ is second movie in a trilogy, ESB and AOTC opened dismally in comparison to ANH and TPM.
    R1-lol TLJ opening is ahead of rogue one by ages.
    Jurassic world-same as TFA. Insane marketing angle of first Jurassic film in ages, and is a first movie in a trilogy/series. Watch Jurassic world 2 get way worse BO like TLJ.
    The avengers-first superhero team up, insane marketing angle and went on to make insane money. Do you want TLJ to be succesful lol?
    Batman v superman-bad reviews sunk this film. Honestly. It suffered a 69% drop to first weekend.
     
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    Friday 15th = Day 1
    Saturday 16th = Day 2
    Sunday 17th = Day 3
    Monday 18th = Day 4
    Tuesday 19th = Day 5
    Wednesday 20 = Day 6
    Thursday 21 = Day 7
     
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    I forgot is opened on the 15th. Thought 16th sorry. XP

    Still rest of my post holds up. Aside from that.

    films like avengers v rogue one shows the measurement they are using is faulty anyway.

    TLJ is second biggest dom opening of all time, avengers was fourth.

    That is as selective as they are.
     
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    Not really, Disney owns much of the media these days. They pay for positive reviews for their Marvel movies and negative reviews for DC Movies. It is not much of a stretch to realize that if you work for a massive media like Disney, they are not going to pay you to write a negative review of their movies.
     
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    That highlighted sentence us the most stupid thing I've read in a while. DC movies sink on their own merits.

    Also before you say Disney buying fox or something equally dumb as proof that they "own" media, the majority of reviews came from independents and multiple newspapers across different networks. Not just Disney's.

    Plus a critic isn't some reception menace, they have their opinion and Disney respects that.
     
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    Forbes predicts TLJ will reach 1 billion by the New Year, final cume will be 1.5 billion.
     
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    TLJ needs a $76,261,638 second weekend to keep pace with The Avengers, a $105,990,056 second weekend to keep pace with Jurassic World, and a $243,248,905 second weekend to keep pace with The Force Awakens.

    [​IMG]

    Even if it falls behind, it could be temporary but it'll have to make up a lot of ground from Christmas on with the holiday boost.
     
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    It’s easily going to make 100mil+ on its second weekend to top avengers and maybe even jurassic world. Already second biggest opening to avengers four. Stop holding TFA over it, that’s an insane comparison to make for a number of reasons I've stated before.

    Stop using selective data. It’s too easy to refute.
     
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    "Audience fervor for Star Wars: The Last Jedi has cooled off like a chilly winter evening on planet Hoth.

    In North America, daily holds for the Rian Johnson-directed flick have been significantly worse than those experienced by Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, and if the pattern continues The Last Jedi could actually wind up doing not much better than the 2016 spin-off movie.

    That, of course, would be a catastrophic result, akin to Warner/DC’s disastrous, money-losing fiasco with Justice League.

    Just as Justice League jammed all of DC’s biggest and most valuable superheroes into a single, swing-for-the-fences mash-up that failed to earn even as much as the single-hero, half-priced (yet far superior) Wonder Woman, so it appears that Disney may have turned the one-time opportunity to put Luke and Leia together in their last movie into an under-performing debacle that earns little more than the band-of-nobodies Rogue One.

    Not that Star Wars: The Last Jedi is in any danger of losing money. There’s too much momentum behind the franchise, too many people who will pay to see it even when they’ve heard it’s a disappointing mess. Disney could have called it The Star Wars Movie That Will Completely Turn You Off From Ever Seeing Another Star Wars Movie Again and it still would have collected $1.2 billion at the box office and turned a tidy profit.

    But for Disney, and for anyone watching, this isn’t really a matter of whether The Last Jedi turns over a billion or more in revenue. That was always an easy target. This is a matter of how well the film succeeds in meeting financial expectations, how well it fulfills the needs of the franchise, and whether it strengthens the Star Wars brand for future projects.


    By those measures, The Last Jedi already looks like a dud."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcai...holds-of-all-9-star-wars-movies/#4d415fba355c
     
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    Forbes? More like #fakenews amirite? No? Theyre legit? Well i blame the alt right cause read someone on the internet said they're taking credit. Thats also silly? Well then its the minorities that are jealous. Also silly? Well...recount?...either way #beststarwars
     
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    The cume gross of Jurassic World equaled the cume gross of The Last Jedi on day 6 of both of them being in theaters.

    TLJ needs a $76,261,638 second weekend to keep pace with The Avengers, a $105,990,056 second weekend to keep pace with Jurassic World, and a $243,248,905 second weekend to keep pace with The Force Awakens.

    [​IMG]

    Even if it falls behind, it could be temporary but it'll have to make up a lot of ground from Christmas on with the holiday boost.

    More (+my charts): https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?posts/453929/
     
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    Also known as Episode IX
     
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    It’s easily going to make 100mil+ on its second weekend to top avengers and maybe even jurassic world. Already second biggest opening to avengers four. Stop holding TFA over it, that’s an insane comparison to make for a number of reasons I've stated before.

    Stop using selective data. It’s too easy to refute.

    And Force awakens-argued to hell and back, opened on a school free week one later than TLJ and had insane marketing angle of first SW film in ten years. TLJ is second movie in a trilogy, ESB and AOTC opened dismally in comparison to ANH and TPM.
    R1-lol TLJ opening is ahead of rogue one by ages.
    Jurassic world-same as TFA. Insane marketing angle of first Jurassic film in ages, and is a first movie in a trilogy/series. Watch Jurassic world 2 get way worse BO like TLJ.
    The avengers-first superhero team up, insane marketing angle and went on to make insane money. Do you want TLJ to be succesful lol?
    Batman v superman-bad reviews sunk this film. Honestly. It suffered a 69% drop to first weekend.

    Ive already refuted these points in other threads, stop reposting them. And the weekend needs to come and go before we have such selective doom and gloom.

    Also, can we please close this thread mods? We already have one financial thread for TLJ, and one talking about general backlash in which this BO info ia being debated.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 22, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 22, 2017 ---
    This is being discussed on the backlash thread. And TLJ is only 23% behind TFA, and had second biggest domestic opening behind it. The hold is only a few % between most major films. The weekend needs to come and go beforw this is actually revelant.

    Stop doomongering.
     
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    So...TLJ isn't making the same amount of money or tracking to make the same as TFA. No surprise and no knock against the film. Move along. ;)
     
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    The point is it is on pace closer to Rogue One, and there is no way Disney projected those numbers. Rogue One was a standalone film with all new characters while TLJ had the return of Luke Skywalker so it should play to a mass audience and that should equal a higher gross. Unless there is a backlash......which some fans on this site are still naïve that it is happening.
     
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    I've always agreed there is a critical backlash. But even this article is being highly selective. The weekend needs to come and go before we can call the entire domestic BO a failure. It’s on tracking for 1.5 billion according to Forbes, the same media. So it’s between R1 and TFA, within expectations.

    People are doomongering far too early and comparing it to TFA and jurassic world, which had insane marketing and were first movies in trilogies.

    It’s going to drop 45-60% like every other modern blockbuster.
     
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