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A New Hope Deleted Scenes

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by Pizza Time, Jan 31, 2020.

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Which deleted scenes should be in A New Hope?

  1. Luke in the desert/ Tosche station

    5 vote(s)
    22.7%
  2. Luke and Biggs

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    54.5%
  3. Searching for R2-D2

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    4.5%
  4. No, the movie is fine as it is.

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  1. Pizza Time

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    This video of A New Hope's deleted scenes has come to my attention:

    For anyone that hasn't watched it, it's well worth your time. I mean any footage from the OT is magical. But I'm here to get your opinions. Should these scenes have made it in the final cut? If not, why? I like the Biggs scenes, he's such a underrated character. They also added depth to the rebellion. Also, this will not be counting Blu Ray deleted scenes!
     
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    It HAS to be Luke and Biggs.

    THAT scene provides a background (of sorts) to their friendship, where it's only LOOSELY touched on in the final cut, and it would've added more weight to the loss of Biggs later on, AND it outlined Biggs' attendance in the Imperial Academy before his defection to the Rebel Alliance.

    I think we would've been better off having had the footage in the end.
     
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    I can't believe "Old Woman on Tatooine" isn't on the list! ANH would have been so much better with that scene. It beggars belief the George didn't include it.
     
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    Like I said, no Blu Ray scenes.
     
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    Before having read the other posts I have voted - no, the movie is fine as it is. Now I think I'll have to say that having the scene with Biggs would have given ANH a more ST like feel, like lines always have been blurred- I like that.
     
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    Biggs & Luke for sure, but then again I like reinserted scenes in my Star Wars :)

    (On a related note, Biggs need to show up in the Cassian show! Probably a few season down the line, however...)
     
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    Ah I missed that.. although I'm not sure what that really means. The scenes on the Blue Ray are the deleted scenes are they not? What's the distinction?
     
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    No, the movie is fine as it is.

    *Attention: editorial breakdown ahead*


    1) Luke in the desert
    This was originally meant to introduce Luke Skywalker after the Empire chasing the Tantive IV. It would have been a terrible idea to use this scene because:
    a) it interrupts the pacing
    b) it's a boring scene
    c) ruins the theatrical introduction of Luke

    This scene was never intended to be Luke's introduction, but it works fine.

    2) Luke and Biggs
    Yes, we learn more about Biggs, but if you look at it storywise, nothing is happening. It actually prevents the story from progressing. It's just heavy exposition. And as with 'Luke in the desert' this scene was talking place before Luke's theatrical introduction. So, same problems as with 1)

    1) + 2) have the major problem of Luke's early involvment. It was cut because Luke had no use for the story (at this point). You don't introduce Luke until he actually becomes a part of the story.
    Furthermore with these two deleted scenes Tatooine gets demystified. Remember- in the theatrical cut R2 and C-3PO are stranded on this world without knowing whether there is life or not. Tatooine is scary. With the deleted scenes added it isn't anymore.


    3) Searching for R2-D2

    This one is pretty obvious. The scene looks terrible. Haha!


    The remaining deleted scenes mainly have pacing problems. But you didn't implement them in the poll, so I'm not analyzing them that much.
     
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    The Blu ray scenes were not originally shot, just reworked by Lucas for the special editions. I wanted to keep this poll to the scenes shot in 1977, when the movie came out, because those scenes feel like true deleted scenes, not add ins later taken out.
     
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    I'd also like to know what this is referring to. Is this referring to Jabba's scenes that were cut back into the movie? Also, what is this old woman scene that's being mentioned?

    I do wish they had worked Biggs into ANH somehow before the trench run. As a kid I clearly remember wondering, "Who's Biggs?" when Luke was saying "Blasted Biggs, where are you?". I felt like I was supposed to know who this person was but didn't.
     
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    That's exactly right. I remember wondering the same, because it seemed like there was more that I was supposed to know....but somehow never figured it out.
     
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    I see... sort of anyway. Although now I'm even more confused!

    The scene I mentioned from the video you posted which is all original 1977. I don't actually have the Blue Ray so I don't know what those are anyway.

    Anyway it doesn't matter - it wasn't my serious answer :p
     
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    The old woman deleted scene is a scene in which an old woman is nearly run by Luke. It was meant to be included in the blu rays but was cut.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 31, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 31, 2020 ---
    My mistake, I'll have to fix that.
     
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    I admit that I have problems accepting modifications in these classic movies.
    I like to watch the movie how it was made at the time and how the movie was showing on cinemas back in 1977 (I know that the original is just SW, and the title ANH came later).
    Some of the scenes are cool, but...I will always prefer the original cut.

    PS. Except Blade Runner. I love the Diretor's cut and not so much the theatrical cut.:D
     
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    I’ve always really liked the early Biggs scene with Luke. It contextualizes what exactly is going through Luke’s head during his establishing shots. He isn’t simply being a pissy impetuous teen demanding to go to the academy a season early. He isn’t just looking at the sunset and thinking abstractly about excitement and adventure in a far off land. He’s heard the situation from someone he respects and admires. Biggs is defecting. He’s jumping ship from the Empire because he’s recognized its evil and is throwing his lot in with the Rebellion - to fight and maybe die for something he believes in.

    THAT’S what Luke is contemplating on that famous ridge at the Lars homestead. He’s thinking about all the people out there in the greater galaxy that are doing things they believe in, standing up for something important, making a difference, dedicating their lives, and he’s stuck there on that insipid farm, repairing vaporators or whatever the hell.

    It’s such a wonderfully insightful scene . . . but it also drags the forward moment of the story down like an anchor made of other anchors. They made the right call. The cut scenes were cut for good reason (including that horrendous Jabba scene the SE resurrected).
     
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    I actually like the Jabba scene, It adds depth into Han's conflict. Just the CGI is horrible and Han calls Jabba a human being, which even when I was younger I thought was weird.
     
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    Luke and Biggs definitely. Gives so much more weight to the whiny "power converters" line.....no...really....what I meant to say was more weight to Luke meeting Biggs on Yavin IV at the end....and the sorrow when Biggs is killed...
     
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    I think it was cut for being redundant. Other than making a new agreement with Jabba and getting some additional time, it's just the same information from the Greedo scene. One or the other might work but not both.
     
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    I hate it, because firstly it ruins the reveal of Jabba in ROTJ. In ANH and TESB we only hear about Jabba. We wonder who that guy is? Is he human or an alien?

    Secondly it slows the pacing down and nothing new is learned in that scene. Exactly what @Obi5Kenobi said.
     
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    Completely agree. There's a build up in not seeing Jabba and only hearing about him. When I saw Jabba the first time it was a huge deal.
     
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