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SPOILER 'A NEW ROGUE HOPE' (RO & ANH Edit)

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by SKB, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. SKB

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    The ending of Rogue One and start of A New Hope together....
    Watch it before Disney takes it down. QUICK!!! (duel)
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    #1 SKB, Dec 31, 2016
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    Nice edit!! Watching them together like this makes me wonder even more why they ended RO like they did! The Tantive IV should NOT have been at the Battle of Scariff!
     
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    "There'll be no escape for the Princess this time." -C-3PO

    Escape from what? Perhaps the last major battle they were in, just minutes before. Personally, I don't see anything that contradicts the Tantive IV being at Scarif. If anything, that line by Threepio supports it.
     
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    Before Rogue One did you assume that the Tantive IV arrived at Tatooine out of a light speed jump? I know I always did.

    But I always wondered why Vader's ship was able to chase them there. Was it just there when they arrived? If so why?

    Now I know why.

    His ship was there when they made their jump and was able to plot their trajectory. Tatooine and Scarif being so close together narrowed the possibilities down a lot.
     
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    Great edit!

    I love how the RO ends. Probably the best finale of all SW movies.
     
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    I made it here too late! TAKEN DOWN!!!
     
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    She's in the Rebellion, I'm sure she's escaped from many things like in EVERY book and movie she's been in. And how did 3PO and R2 get on board? They were on Yavin 4 when the fleet left for Scariff. Yes, 3PO said "We're going to Scariff" but according to the comm SGT that ran out to tell Mon Mothma about Rebels on Scariff, he said they had already left. Seems like a plot hole to me. Plus, how could Leia plausibly claim to be on a diplomatic mission if Vader just watched her ship escape combat?
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    Or maybe they had just made the jump from Alderaan to Tattoine and the Empire calculated the jump and notified Vader. Since Vader was so close at Scariff, his jump would be quick. Remember, Bail was going to Alderaan and was going to send someone after Obi Wan. He couldn't send Leia if she was at Scariff.
     
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    It's great reliving those few second apart, nicely done.
     
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    I've found the Adywan fan edit of ANH which changes C-3PO's dialogue, he doesn't mention the princess. See it at the top ^
     
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    I thought it worked fine Monday morning quarterbacking strategy is silly. There had to be grounds to search the Tantive 5. Otherwise Leia's bluster about being a diplomatic mission and the conversation about the Emperor ending the Senate would be meaningless.
     
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    So maybe the Empire has ships around all of the Core Worlds observing them when they enter light speed and calculating the potential destinations because reasons? We know they should have been able to do so given the scenario that Rogue One provides.

    If we're going to make assumptions, Bail having sent Leia after he had returned to Alderaan and her then ending up at Scarif due to unplanned circumstances is a more reasonable one.

    Though I will say that shouldn't have required us to make an assumption. They should have set that up in the movie rather than trying to hide that she was there for a big reveal.
     
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    We already know that the Empire tracks ships. Space traffic control just like our air traffic control. There are many references in the SW Universe to changing "Transponder" codes in ships to hide the true identity from the Empire because they get scanned when they enter a system. Also, any Imperial ship in the Alderaan system would be tracking any ship in range, it's common military practice. You track every contact and treat it as a potential threat. The idea of the Tantive IV being tracked as it left the surface of Alderaan and made the jump to light speed would be VERY plausible.
     
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    You say that because you assume Leia tells truth. And Vader who knows nothing, is supposed to believe her.

    Well. There is another opinion: when she says to Vader "this is a diplomatic mission", Leia lies. She boldy lies to Vader. She lies, exactly the same way your son lies when you catch him in the kitchen by night, his hands inside the Nutella, and chocolate all over his mouth, and he says "hey dad, i'm just checking the temperature".
    Yes, she lies and perfectly knows she's lying, and so does Vader who's not a dumb. But as Leia is a Princess, and she actually belongs to the Diplomatic Council, Vader just cannot slap her and send her to the corner for punishment ;)
     
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    Alderaan to Tatooine is a pretty long trip, with many potential destinations along that trajectory. Han lost not one but two star destroyers making that jump in the opposite direction in ANH.

    Scarif and Tatooine are very close together, which makes accurately predicting the destination much easier.
     
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    yes and remember: the hyperspace jump is decided in emergency, as the Princess just had been given the plans, and as the Dark Lord himself is right behind the door, shlaking and slicing everyone on his way... in this case, hyperspace trajectory cannot be calculated with accuracy for a long jump. Remember Han in ep IV who tells Luke that in order to avoid a star collision, calculating an hyperspace path need a lot of accuracy.
     
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    I've been asking people and checking out the web to see if anyone was asking the question of the light-speed jump/Imperial chase. I understand the trajectory theory. But someone mentioned that the Falcon got away from two star destroyers by jumping to light speed and those two ships never caught up. And they were flying in the same direction as the Falcon and were gaining. It appears inconsistent to me.

    The other scene that appears to me to be inconsistent with the trajectory theory is at the end of Empire, when the Falcon jumps to light speed just as Vader's ship was about to activate the tractor beam. Being approximately 50 feet away from the Falcon, why couldn't the Empire's ship track the Falcon? Is it just me, or does this seem inconsistent to any of you?
     
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    Nice edit of RogueOne into NewHope

     
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    Of all the splice jobs, this is the best one seen to date! How long before the Imperial Disney Stormtroopers block the signal?
     
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