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A WIP timeline of events (not final), from ROTJ to TFA

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by MagnarTheGreat, Jan 1, 2016.

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    This is a work-in-progress, subject to change with the addition of new information (until I get bored/distracted by something else.)

    * Beware that it will feature spoilers from any part of the Star Wars canon, not just The Force Awakens. *

    BBE/ABE - Years Before/After the Battle of Endor (Star Wars: Return of the Jedi)

    Timeline
    • Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (23 BBE)
    • >23 BBE - Emperor Palpatine recruits Galli of Jakku to oversee his operations on Jakku [6]
    • 7 BBE - Ransolm Casterfo is born [1]
    • Star Wars: A New Hope (4 BBE)
    • 4 BBE - Armitage Hux, son of Brendol Hux, is born [1]
    • 2 BBE - Poe Dameron, son of Shara Bey and Kes Dameron, is born [1]
    • Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1 BBE)
    • Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - The Battle of Endor (30 years before TFA) [2]
    • ~0 ABE - Leia and Han marry [3]
    • ~0 ABE - Shara goes on missions with Han, Leia, and Luke / Kes goes on missions with Han / Shara and Leia go on a mission to Naboo / Shara and Luke recover Force trees taken by Emperor Palpatine from the Jedi Temple on Coruscant [4]
    • ~0 ABE - Han and Chewbacca prepare a mission to liberate Kashyyyk [5]
    • ~0 ABE - Emperor Palpatine's adviser Yupe Tashu advises Imperial remnant to seek the source of the Dark side of the Force in the Unknown Regions of the galaxy [5]
    • ~0 ABE - Leia is pregnant and discovers that her unborn child is a son through the Force [6]
    • ~0 ABE - Luke is away from Leia and Han [6]
    • ~0 ABE - Liberation of Kashyyyk / Chewbacca lives on Kashyyyk [6]
    • ~0 ABE - Gallius Rax (formerly Galli) brings the Imperial remnant to Jakku [6]
    • ~1 ABE - Ben, son of Leia and Han, is born / Young Ben's childhood description [1]
    • 1 ABE - The Battle of Jakku / Signing of the Galactic Concordance / Brendol and other Imperials retreat to the Unknown Regions of the galaxy [7]
    • 5 ABE – The last time Maz Kanata has seen Han before The Force Awakens [24]
    • 7 ABE - Shara dies [8]
    • 7 ABE - Finn is born [1]
    • 9 ABE - Korr Sella, daughter of Sondiv Sella, is born [1]
    • 10 ABE - Rinnrivin Di is a low-level spice broker for the Hutts [9]
    • 11 ABE - Rey is born [1]
    • 15~18 ABE – Rinnrivin’s criminal cartel is a minor player [9]
    • 16 ABE - Young Rey is abandoned on Jakku with Unkar Plutt (force vision) / Young Rey's childhood description [10]
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    • 18 ABE - Rinnrivin's criminal cartel becomes major after it is given billions of credits in start-up capital / Carise Sindian convinces Centrists to fund Rinnrivin to build up the Amaxines as an advance army for the future arrival of the First Order [11]
    • 20 ABE - Greer Sonnel joins the Crystal Cairn racing team [12]
    • 20 ABE - Han's Gauntlet race - through an abandoned city half-buried in groundquake rubble and overrun with giant lizards [12]
    • 21 ABE - Han's Gauntlet race - over Cato Neimoidia's stormiest ocean while dodging geysers [12]
    • 22 ABE - Han secretly pilots a AA-wing from Novaldex in his Gauntlet race on Corellia / Han helps Greer win the race and he formally introduces himself to her and invites her to join his racing team [12]
    • 22 ABE - Greer retires from racing due to bloodburn and goes to work for Leia on Hosnian Prime [12]
    • <25 ABE - Leia sends Ben away to Luke, who is training a new generation to be Jedi [13]
    • <25 ABE - Han loses the Millennium Falcon to Gannis Ducain [14]
    • 25 ABE - Leia is unable to get in contact with Luke and Ben and have been cut off from communication [15]
    • 25 ABE - Han has been running a shipping company and overseeing racing competition / Han has been spending long periods of time away from Leia / Chewbacca has been living on Kashyyyk [15]
    • 25 ABE - Leia is warned at a Populist banquet inside the Galactic Senate building by a message telling her to "run" written underneath a napkin / The Amaxines covertly bomb the Galactic Senate building on Hosnian Prime [15]
    • 25 ABE - In the Galactic Senate, Anakin Skywalker is revealed to the galaxy to later have become Darth Vader through an old voice recording made by Bail Organa / Leia withdraws from the election of First Senator as the Populist candidate [15]
    • 25 ABE - Populist candidate for First Senator Tai-Lin Garr is assassinated by Amaxine leader Arliz Hadrassian [15]
    • 25 ABE - Ransolm is framed and arrested for collaborating with the Amaxines [15]
    • 25 ABE - Leia serves out her last term as a New Republic Senator / Leia creates the Resistance, believing that war is inevitable [15]
    • >=25 ABE - "The Burning Temple" - Ben betrays Luke and kills the Jedi apprentices / Luke places his robot hand on R2-D2 (force vision) [16]
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    • >=25 ABE - "The Battlefield" - The Knights of Ren with Kylo Ren (formerly Ben) in the rain (force vision) [17]
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    • >=25 ABE - Han and Leia become estranged spouses / Chewbacca rejoins Han [18]
    • ~30 ABE - On Jakku, Rey finds, repairs, and flies a Ghtroc 690 light freighter until she is betrayed by Devi and Strunk who take it to leave Jakku [19]
    • ~30 ABE - Poe leaves the New Republic navy and joins the Resistance / Poe is introduced to Leia and sent on a mission to gather intel about the First Order / Leia sends Poe on a mission to find Lor San Tekka in hopes that Lor can help find Luke [19]
    • ~30 ABE - Finn trains to be a First Order Stormtrooper in simulators and with melee weapons / On an asteroid in Pressy’s Tumble, Finn declines to kill striking miners on a mission with Captain Phasma / Phasma assigns Finn to the Jakku mission as a final test to decide his fate [19]
    • ~30 ABE - At the Serendipity bar, Han listens and tells an old story to a gang involving the Millennium Falcon / Han gets into a fight with them as they demand the Millennium Falcon and Chewbacca helps out Han / Han warns the gang that they are not afraid of Ducain, the Irving boys, and the others [20]
    • ~30 ABE - At the Resistance base, C-3PO tells Jessika Pava an old story about Luke and the first time he used a Lightsaber in battle / C-3PO tells her how Luke later kept a promise to return to Devaron where he met with Farnay again [21]
    • ~30 ABE - At the Resistance base, Leia reluctantly begins recording her memoirs to PZ-4CO and starts with an old story about what she knows about duty / Leia worries about Poe and Caluan Ematt brings her news about Jakku [22]
    • Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Galactic peace comes to an end (30 ABE) [23]

    References [#]
    List of post-ROTJ and pre-TFA novels, short stories, and comics
     
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    Kylo Ren is described as a "boy" when he destroyed the Jedi Academy. He is about 29~30 in TFA. When I think boy, I think under the age of 18. So the attack on the new Jedi Order could've happened at least 11~12 years in the past, if not more. (Note: Rey is 19 but it's not stated in the movie, they just refer to her as "girl" a bunch of times.) The leaked script says that it is the first time Han has seen his son as a man when he takes off the helmet: "Han is JOLTED -- seeing the face of his son for the first time as a man."

     
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    According to Hidalgo, Rey was left of Jakku before the destruction of Luke's school. And the two things might not even be related.

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    Though, I doubt this - it could be that Kylo dropped her there when he ran off, found Snoke and returned later to destroy the school and kill the Jedi.
     
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    He didn't answer the question. It's a complete dodge. Read between the lines. He raised a question and didn't answer it.

    Q: Does 2 plus 2 equal four?
    A: Why are you performing addition?



    Snoke's involvement could be going back farther than age 15 as well. There's not much indication.
     
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    Actually he did confirmed that timeline - Rey dropped, then attack happened - I'll try to find a tweet, but it was already posted here on site.

    I agree that the two events could be related which is why I proposed how.

    That too was confirmed, I believe in the novel. Apparently, he observed Ben since the young age and, possibly, influenced him.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 1, 2016, Original Post Date: Jan 1, 2016 ---
    Here it is:



    Rey was dropped off at 5 years of age, now has 19. Ergo, attack on school was more recent.
     
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    There's two entirely different attacks. Considering he just admitted that this scene is another place entirely than Luke's Jedi students, it could be referring to this.

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    Han Solo said that a boy did the other attack against Luke's students. That is not this image. This is the Knights of Ren.
     
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    A Han/Leia fan asked Pablo if there would be any happier times between Han and Leia in upcoming books and he said they had some romantic scenes in Bloodlines, which takes place 6 years before TFA. That would imply that Ben didn't go dark and massacre the Jedi Academy until afterwards, since we know him turning dark caused them to split up. Someone then asked him to explain the line in the novelization where it says Han sees Ben's face for the first time as an adult, and he explained that by saying that Han didn't see any of the boy he raised in Kylo.
     
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    If and this is still a big IF Rey is Luke's daughter maybe he saw a premonition of it happening and sent her to Jakku knowing she'd be 'safe' and came back to the temple and saw the destruction and maybe HE fought the Knights of Ren and Kylo got away? After all, Kylo is the last of the Knights, what happened to the others?
     
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    Apparently, Finn was born about 22 or 23 years before TFA.
     
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    Ben would have been about 24 years old 6 years ago. A 24 year old boy? That's a man. Han Solo said a boy destroyed the new Jedi Order. Bloodlines could also have scenes that take place or reference earlier times.

    Pablo is directly contradicting the leaked script and novelization here. I posted a short quote above.

    The leaked script also says that Han and Leia are married, husband and wife reunited.

    Pablo wouldn't answer the question when asked.



    Pablo won't answer how long Luke has been missing for.



    Now it could be that Johnson (and Trevorrow if not yet) are just changing a lot things and disregarding things and the Lucasfilm guy (Pablo) has to juggle all these different masters that he has to deal with along with working out the book stories.
     
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    Actually it wasn't Pablo it was Jen Heddle the editor of LFL:



    She says there's some cute Han/Leia scenes in Bloodlines, which would imply they're still a couple. I suppose they could be flashbacks though.

    Pablo explaining the line in the novelization about Han not recognizing his son as a man as Han not seeing any of the boy he raised in him:




    Han might just be using the word "boy" because he still sees his son as that even though he's a fully grown man. My dad still uses "daddy's girl" to describe me, even though I'm in my 30s.

    Kylo's temper tantrums to me make more sense with someone who has recently turned, as opposed to the calm, collected manner of Vader in the OT.
     
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    Added New Republic: Bloodline information. Any data points that have numbers/years attached is most useful.
     
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    Yeah, if they're gonna say that "boy" refers to a 23/24 year old who killed the new Jedi generation it's gonna bug me because there's not a lot of room for interpretation with any of those lines from novel, the script and the movie itself. I'll be very curious to see exactly what's going on in the Bloodlines book - if those are flashbacks the author was referencing or not.

    We even have evidence from concept art that "Jedi Killer's" days as a Dark Side villain dated back to his teens:
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    At least he looks like a teen here. And remember there's evidence from the older versions of the flashback/vision sequence in the production log that "young jedi killer" was gonna be in the movie at one point.
     
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    It seems to me that they haven't nailed a lot of this stuff down yet- which is frustrating, disappointing, and pretty concerning .

    I honestly don't think they decided who Rey is as of TFA final cut. Seems like it could go either way simply because they couldn't decide.

    I'm really starting to think this entire thing was rushed. Seems like things that are now officially cannon contradict each other and what Pablo is stating.

    Now, I know Lucas essentially made things up as he went along. However, I was hoping the story group would learn from that.

    Feeling more and more like a rush job.
     
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    I feel like the scene with Ren and the knights in the rain may actually be a future event. My lil' hunch.
     
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    No, I think it's the past. It comes before the part of the vision that is in the future and the snow - which I think is clearly the showdown btw Ren & Rey on Starkiller.
     
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    In other words, "speculate away, but I am pleading the Fifth". :D
     
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    The actress that played kid Rey could reasonably be anywhere from 4 to 6 years old. But she can't be age 10 or 13 or something like that. Only way that works is if the force vision is unreliable.
     
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