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After the ST, they should make ep. XIII - XV

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by The Last Crusader, May 10, 2016.

  1. The Last Crusader

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    There's been some speculation regarding the future of the saga after ep. IX. Everybody seems to assume that if there's another trilogy, they will make episodes X, XI & XII directly after IX. But isn't isn't it more in keeping with the Star Wars tradition if they in stead jump to episodes XIII, XIV & XV? I mean, one of the striking characteristics that made Star Wars so unique was that it all started with episode IV. Wouldn't it be bold and yet completely consistent at the same time if they make that jump from IX to XIII? Has anybody else thought of this?
     
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    If 4-6 is the OT.
    1-3 is the PT.
    and 7-9 is the ST.
    then I sincerely hope if there is a 10-12, then its the FT. As in the Final Trilogy.

    At first I thought after the announcement that Disney bought LucasFilm and it would make the ST, that anything beyond it would be ridiculous.

    But we're living in different times now where a franchise like The Fast and The Furious can make 8 movies using the same cast. And where each sequel since part 4, performs better than the last.

    But the key to the Fast and Furious success is using the same main cast.
    I reckon that Disney will just make episode X, XI and XII with an older ST cast because that's what people want to see.

    Anything beyond that would be unrecognizable and Star-Wars-in-name-only. And more than likely wouldn't make a profit.
     
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    I've heard rumors of there being another 3 as well. I hadn't thought about jumping ahead to Xlll, that could be interesting. Like TFA with Rey's force vision...we think what happened back then, I so want to see that. So if you jumped ahead you could in a since go back in time and fill in the blanks later down the road. You would be able to do this because your actors would still be young; not to old like our original cast. Unfortunately Luke's failure and Ben's fall will never be on the big screen, it will only be in a book someday. I like the way you are thinking...nice post!
     
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    GL had originally envisioned Episodes X - XII as taking place tens of thousands of years into the future after ROTJ and after there are no more Skywalkers with Artoo and Threepio still alive as they're the real narrators of the story.
     
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    I have to disagree with you on the point of anything beyond being unrecognizable and that it wouldn't make a profit.
    SW is much MUCH more than the Skywalker saga and the fans know this. There are tons of interesting characters in the SW galaxy and this goes even beyond the Jedi vs Sith, Rebelion vs Empire themes. For many years fans have craved a Bounty Hunter movie and that's just scratching the surface. Smugglers, Gangsters, Dark Side Witches, Bounty Hunters, Pirates, Freedom Fighters and much more are just some of the themes that could be used to make an excellent movie. What about time periods? From the time of The Old Republic to the future timeline of Darth Krayts Sith Empire, fans have been wanting to see movies of this type for a very long time. Rogue One is going to be the very first movie that will not center around the Jedi conflict or even the Skywalker family and I just know that once it comes out, fans will be delighted and they will want to see even more aspects of the SW galaxy that goes beyond episodes 1 through 9. SW is much more than just the story of Anakin's legacy and I for one would love to see a whole new trilogy that doesn't focus on this. You can also take TFA as an example. This movie, even though it's the least SW movie I like, has been greatly loved by fans all over and it has gone to be one of the highest grossing movies of all time. Now stop and think for a moment and look at the main cast. Rey, Finn and Poe to this moment have not been identified as any of the great names. To this moment we don't know if any one of them is a Skywalker, Solo, Calrissian and there is still a great chance that they may turn out to not be related to any of those names yet TFA would still be a huge success. Disney can even make Rey be the daughter of Jar Jar Binks and have her story go on without any Skywalker influence and those movies are still going to have a huge fan base and they will still make millions of dollars even though many of us will hate it. Heck, if The Land Before Time film series can have a fan base to the point of them making 14 movies of a bunch of kiddie dinosaurs that have never grown up, imagine what a huge empire like Disney can do with a franchise that is loved all over the world.
     
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    Sorry, I meant to say they're definately going to make plenty more anthology films like Rogue One and in different times period. some of them could be their own trilogies. I just don't think we'll get anything called Episode thirteen, fourteen and fifteen.
     
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    Oh ok. Well I have to say that I totally agree with you on that my friend.
     
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    I have very veeery mixed feelings about a second sequel trilogy. You see, I think great art ought to have a beginning, a middle and an end. For example, I'm totally for bands to break up after a certain point. They can go and form other bands, but for that unique creative act to have a deeper meaning, it needs to go. For me it feels like seeing the nth Zeppelin reunion or the seeing The Rolling Stones playing Satisfaction for the 100th time while barely being able to hold themselves in their adult diapers. I believe that for the Star Wars main saga to be great it has to end.

    That said, I'm open to be surprised. I'm sure that there are some great minds behind these movies, especially nowadays. If they find a way to extend the sequel trilogy beyond in a way that feels right I wouldn't mind yet another trilogy.
     
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    For starters, skipping around will just confuse and frustrate people and there are already debates on viewing order as it is. If there is another Saga film after Episode IX, it should be Episode X.
    Second, I want some time to pass between Episode IX and X. Each trilogy (chronologically) is about a different generation and we need to let some actual time pass. And each trilogy is a different generation for us, too. Those who watched the OT as kids, their kids (including people my age) were young when the PT came out. And now those individuals have small children in time for the ST. Let's have the same thing happen.
    Third, I don't really want another trilogy after this one, at least not a Saga one. Here are my reasons why:
    1) I kinda like the idea of a trilogy of trilogies. There's a poetry to the idea.
    2) Here's how I view the Saga as of now:
    PT - Fall of Anakin Skywalker
    OT - Redemption of Anakin Skywalker
    ST - Legacy of Anakin Skywalker
    I just don't know how a sequel sequel trilogy would work.
    3) What would we call it? The sequel sequel trilogy? There's nothing we can name it that doesn't seem silly.
    4) At this point, the Anthology films will be fully up and running. That can be the films from there on out.

    Will I see Episode X, XI, and XII? Oh hell yeah, advanced Thursday showing if possible. But do I want them? Not really.
     
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    Well...here you go: http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-...-star-wars-legacy-star-wars-the-old-republic/
    --- Double Post Merged, May 11, 2016, Original Post Date: May 11, 2016 ---
    Also shouldn't this thread say "X - XII?"
    --- Double Post Merged, May 11, 2016 ---
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    I dont think they would use Lucas thought process. it wouldnt be as good to already make the ST and skip 3 episodes just to backtrack to Ep. X-XII. Its too late. If Lucas had started the film at Ep. X then we would still be in somewhat similiar situation. I wouldnt want a gap after the ST cause then characters get old. its perfect how it is now cause the OT cast is old and makes a good Saga now. It left everyone to wonder what did happen in Ep. 1? I think they shouldnt gap it...
     
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    Great post. I really like your second point, it ties everything together nice and neat. Disney likes things nice and neat but they also like to make money and that is where I could see them making even more saga films (it's hard to pass up billions)as well as all the stand alone films. So I think another 3 are possible; I'm right there with you, I would go see them as well, but I don't need them.
     
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    If they succeed to make a Fast and Furious VII I guess there's room to make some Star Wars stories for a long long time.
     
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    I agree, then add the stand alone movies on top of that...oh man! Disney would be explaining what when this that and the other all the time. I don't think they want to be doing that. When you think about it there could be several era's of Star Wars going on at the same time, what a mess that could be. I've already had to explain to several people that Rogue One is before A New Hope and that Death Star is the original Death Star...you know that look Shrek and Donkey gave at the information booth at Duloc; that's the look I got. Anyways I enjoyed your post and I would give you a like if I could!:)
     
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    Let's see where IX goes and come back to this. Might be cool to have new stories in the Old Republic, long before Obi-Wan and Anakin.
     
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    If they do that, I'm on board...you could have a clean slate with which to work with.
     
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    Well chronological order would dictate that X + would take place after IX...
     
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    I think Disney and certain fans, should have left well enough alone.
     
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    i want them to make 10 - 12. it would be great if they just kept going. nothing is holding them back, so just keep going.
     
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    GL always was a good story/ideas guy.

    On one level, it's too bad we'll never know how SW might have progressed had he just kept a hold of the property and let other directors handle projects instead of handing it over wholesale.
     
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