RUMOR Anakin Skywalker TFA concept art

I agree on principle, but I also think back to the Mortis episodes of the Clone wars. The Son and Daughter were literal personifications of the two sides of the Force and given his Chosen One status is Anakin not a reflection of the Force itself, both light and dark? Add that to the rumors of Hayden being prepped, Rian having a more favorable view of the Prequels and I believe we may well see this or something similar in the next two movies.

 

yes. glad this was cut its dumb.

 

I think Anakin breaks the rules because of his divine birth, but it seems we have too little information. However one aspect I see is Disney's desire to have Darth Vader in this trilogy in some capacity. That could override any rules that have been established. I am personally on the fence.

 

In Shattered Empire, Leia has a vision of Maul when she goes to the Theed power generator. Maybe the mask gives Kylo visions of Vader in a similar manner?

 

True...maybe Kylo isn't as powerful yet to actually SEE the vision, rather he FEELS it (?) .

 

THAT would be a plot hole if it ended up in one of these movies.

 

I hope they don't do that it already feels like fan fiction a Darth Vader appearance is going overboard.

 

Having Anakin in the movie does not break any rules of the dark side or the light. You choose how the force represents you based upon your actions.


Also I don't think Anakin would talk to anyone except Luke. That is the only way I could see this working.

 

That completely destroys the ending of ROTJ.

 

I meant in the sense we see no Dark Side ghosts only Jedi. His status as the chosen one would allow him to be shown as he lived or as you said by his actions. However, one thing they will have to address is why the older son is now talking to a younger father. that concept art would be perfect in camoflauging the difference.

Why only speak to Luke if I may ask? I concur with that as well.

 

. I believe there is some confusion about the whole force ghost and its rules. Only cannon counts here. Qui gon jinn is who found out about this force ghost ability. Why and how, I do not know. But most likely he learned it from the same force priestesses that yoda learned from in the last few episodes of clone wars season 6. Most likely the force priestesses reached out to qui gon becuase he found the chosen one. Also the mortis episodes in season 3 has qui gon jinn reach out to Anakin. So anakin is aware of the idea of force ghosts. Anakin does tell Yoda in season 6 that he figured it was an illusion. We don't know how Anakin learned this but we have ideas. 1. Talked to qui gon jinn again as a sith lord 2. The chosen one can do it all 3. He taught himself or went on the same quest Yoda did. We have no clue of qui gon jinn reached out to Anakin again. We also dont know if qui gon reached out to others or was tricked by....such as snoke, plagueis, sidious, dooku (master). Also no reason the dark side cant learn or use this force ghost ability. I cannot find anything in cannon that says dark side users cannot see ghosts. I would just like to add a great detail that the force priestesses tell yoda he will lose with anakin but luke will be the one he wins with. I consider this the most important plot in star wars. This is why obi wan dies on purpose to guide luke as a ghost. I also believe yoda waits to see luke has Not chosen to join his father, then allows himself to pass on as a ghost.

 

First off the concept art is very interesting, i am not against it by any means. I also have No problem with Anakin showing up in the movies again either. Granted it might play with alot of what we allegedly know about the Force, I would think like life the Force changes and why cant what is being talked about happen? Disney also wants to expand "Starwars", not narrow it and what we know of the Force keeps it very small instead of expanding it. Who is say that the Force cant do that? As for Darksiders not seeing Force Ghost, perhaps but if they go with this what is to say they wont?

That is an interesting though, great episode that really dove into the Force and what it is, it even expanded our thoughts on what the Force is. No one has been able to say, what Hayden is doing in regards to preparing?

Perhaps Disney wants Vader around in some capacity, however remember Disney wants to expand "Starwars" not narrow it, it is a great Franchise and with everything thrown out the window, who knows where they are going?

I think expanding the "Starwars" universe is only a plus, not playing it safe or keeping to the same formula. They dont need to reinvent the wheel, they just need to expand it and they have a lot to do that on.

 

Good thing the art team isn't in charge of the story. An Anakin ghost and a Vader ghost? That's so absurd it's laughable. Who would even pitch that?

 

Pablo Hidalgo's response tells us that this was not only dropped for TFA but was part of a brainstorming exercise.

An idea not suitable for TFA,"maybe" ok for one of the other films to come but the design/story teams for the next two sequels would have to consult if that art even fits the narrative of the overarching story being told.

 

Well hmmm. Don't like the idea of an evil force ghost but . . . . old Hayden would look awesome in the improved special edition.

 

That would be interesting and quite possible. Kylo did as the mask to show him again... maybe he was being literal!

I think if they kept Luke secret till the end because his presence would take away from Rey and the new heros... I think the same would be true of Darth Vader/Anakin. He would take away from Kylo's presence in the movie.