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Anakin's Saber did not witness all of Rey's vision?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Xeven, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. Darth Lunya

    Darth Lunya Rebel General

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    In regards to the title of this thread, Rey had a "Force back" not a "lightsaber back".

    The most crystal (no pun intended) clear point of the force back without loose ends is Obi-Wan's call to Rey.

    How does Obi-Wan know her name is Rey? Is it not possible that Obi-Wan was attempting to contact Rey directly through the Sabre to communicate with her?

    Is it not possible that the force back is in fact that of Obi-Wan's force ghost? This would explain how the force back could have been present in all of those moments.

    I would love to hear people's thoughts on this.
     
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    Totally agree.
     
  3. Cole

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    There's the theory that Ben had the saber. Which is why he recognizes it and claims that it belongs to him. So if it was Ben who dropped off Rey then it would be present on Jakku, and it would maybe be there at the Academy, where he leaves it after killing the Padawans, and where Maz finds it. Han also recognizes the saber and seems to have an uncomfortable reaction to seeing it. Why? Not because he mocked Luke for the "Ancient weapon" or because he used it to open a Taun Taun 30 years before...its because his son, who had too much Vader in him, was training with Anakin's saber, and he used it to kill all the padawans. Otherwise I really don't think Han would recognize a single lightsaber he hadn't seen in 30 years...

    ....maybe.
     
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    Rian Johnson has been hired to write a sequel to The Force Awakens. I repeat - a sequel to The Force Awakens. It's his job to progress the story forward in a sensible direction and make sense of at least some of the mysteries left in a previous film. He won't do what Abrams might have done because he's not Abrams. The more I think about this whole debate about planning, the surer I am that people should know as little as possible. Before it was told that directors decide on the story people constantly moaned about Disney not letting artists do what they want and making them follow a plan. Now, when we know that there's no plan people people say that there should be a plan. Funnily, these two groups form a Venn diagram that overlaps quite extensively. I mean - what the hell? What do you want Lucasfilm to do? Because so far you seem to have no idea what you want, just like Lucasfilm allegedly has.

    Coming back to the topic of Luke's lightsaber and finding Luke in general, the more I think about, the more convinced I am that Luke wanted to be found. If that wasn't the case, why would he have left a map to his exact location with two of the people he trusted (R2 with Leia and the chip with Lor San Tekka,) how would Leia have known of the existence of the map and with whom it could have been found (as far as I know, at the beginning of Poe Dameron comic Poe knew that the map was with Lor San Tekka,) why would his previous lightsaber have been found in a place that was visited by tons of people every day and was owned by Han Solo's trusted and Force-sensitive friend and why would have his personal droid with the rest of the map have been turned on only in presence of the rest of the map? All of that seems too convienient to me to be just a coincidence.
     
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    George Lucas didn't have anything planned, and it worked out pretty well. At the same time, though, he was a voice, and those who joined him were a chorus, so Lucas still lead the development and his inherent coherency constructed, frankly, iconic films. Whether or not there is a guiding vision isn't necessarily known, and certainly will not be until Episode IX has been released, but it would do well for Lucasfilm to have some semblance of direction. I say firmly believing no good story has dialogue; "that is a story for another time". That's just awful, games do that, not iconic movies.

    As for Luke, technically, there's no map to Luke. The Jedi Master let those close to him know he was going off to find the First Jedi Temple, a Temple that Artoo had uncovered in the Empire's archives, wherein Lor San Tekka completed the map for Luke on his journey. All Leia and her Resistance did was follow in Luke's footsteps, tracking him to Lor, but they didn't know Artoo retained the other half of the map. It's by sheer luck (hmmm) that Artoo was left behind and didn't go with Luke. We were witness to their disappointment when the Resistance realized it was an incomplete map. I certainly do not believe Artoo was left behind as a breadcrumb trail, that just seems needlessly convoluted. In that case leave a damn message.
     
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