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RUMOR Another report of what Colin Trevorrow's IX would have been like.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Andrew Waples, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. Andrew Waples

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    I don't know how this guy got the entire CT's script. Considering that MSW's was fake. I'm skeptical that they would've used Mortis from the Clone Wars to tell the ending.
     
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    Some further tibits:

    - Poe was going to be flirting and hitting on Rey though out the movie with her shutting it down
    - Hux was going to attempt to use the force and even had a collection of lightsabers
    - Towards the end Rey gets Neoed from Matrix Revolutions and fights with a blindfold
    - Kylo Ren is the the most powerful Sith of all time because of the SKYWALKER bloodline created by Sheev Palpatine that learned this ability by the oldest Sith Lord TOR VALUM or known as Darth Bane that now finally created the ULTIMATE SITH after the failures over the last thousand years. Now the final rule of 2 is for filled, Kylo kills him.
    - Rey is a no one because she is creation of the light side to bring balance to the force. The force is a natural being who controls the balance itself if needed.

    The final:
    - Rey and Kylo meet on Mortis: The Duel of the Fates. The final sequence is visible as a Big Bang in the universe. The universe is vanished and a new one is created.


    If I get it right, there is no redemption for Kylo in this version. He's simply the bad guy.
     
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    I'm not the biggest fan of Tros, but this doesn't sound any better at all.
     
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    I always thought this to be the most likely scenario, but I also thought Rey was Leia's daughter after seeing TFA :) Although by adopting the Skywalker surname she kind of is Leia's daughter, at least from a certain point of view.

    But, yeah, after TLJ, it really seemed Rey was a 'nobody', a Vergence of the Force. A creation of the light side of the force because of the rise of Kylo. Snoke also implied that. "Darkness rises and light to meet it", he said. She could still have been conceived, like Anakin was by Shmi (or so it was implied).

    That said, it was also heavily implied by TLJ that Rey had a strong appeal for the Darkside of the force. Even stronger than Kylo, so I guess it still works her being a Palpatine.

    We knew these two would do a final duel of sorts, or be involved in one big final battle. Either they would both die, both lived or one of them would die. I was the latter with Rey being the sole survivor, with Ben redeeming himself, so I'd say it was the most likely scenario, although being so young I'd love to see them both getting out alive from the final fight.

    As for a final big bang, wow that would have been catastrophic and everyone would perish in an instant. It would be too much for Disney, or even the Star Wars franchise. I could still see an annihilation of the two poles of the dyad resulting in the death of both or the two would come out alive but losing their force abilities. That or everyone in the galaxy would lose their powerful force abilities and everyone would diminish in that regard. The playing field would be leveled. This would have worked for me.
     
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    I honestly would of loved to see this play out because it seems more original than what Episode 9 gave us. If this leak is indeed true, the rumor about him getting let go because he didn't agree with them killing Luke doesn't hold up. Until further proof that this is legit, i'm just going to take this with a grain of salt just like the JJ cut and throwing him under the bus leak.
     
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    Colin Treverrow didn't even know what his Episode 9 was going to be like, so this entire thing is a load of Bantha fodder.
     
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    Well, that's the TITLE I wanted for Episode IX, LOL.

    The rest, not so much.
     
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    I agree as he wanted Luke alive, yet he’s a Force Ghost in this version? I’m not buying this leak.
     
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    Doubt it, colin and derek worked on this thing for 2 + years.

    BOT: Aside from the fact that my boi Anakin is still not in it (not counting the vader stuff), this sounds alot better than the stuff JJ and Terrio wrote.
    It sounds like a better sequel to TLJ and the saga overall, more prequel stuff,locations, mortis from clone wars (the last thing lucas contributed to star wars), no bendemption, rey being a nobody and no palpatine in the flesh

    Also the title is dope, 10 times better than TROS, which is AotC level bad.

    Even if this is all made up and some nerd on 4 chan wrote this stuff, the actual title "duel of the fates" for the final episode in the saga is freaking great.
     
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    If that's real, which I doubt, that is some hog wash. Utterly awful. I'd be embarrassed if that script saw the light of day. But I still don't get this fascination with Mortis? All these fake leaks (yes I believe it to be fake) has some Mortis headline in them, I mean Ochi's dagger among fakers was actually The Dagger of Mortis in their itinerary, this fascination / obsession is really peculiar.
     
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    Just because he wanted Luke alive, doesn't mean he couldn't have written the script and played ball, so to speak. This script was supposedly submitted on 12/16/16-- a week before Fisher's passing. I'd also like to point that the actual script is much larger, this is just bullet points.
     
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    Although, I must admit it doesn't sound as bad as the MSW rumour of The Haunted House on The Hill script with this evil female darksider called Solloway. That sounded rancid.
     
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    When Carrie died, everything that Colin had been working on was discarded, and he never finished a new script draft after that, which is why he got fired.
     
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    Burnett talked more about Trevorrow's script today on his channel.

    Says Poe and Rey have a romance of sorts. Rey keeps trying to send Poe away because it's too dangerous for him, uses the Jedi Mind Trick but Poe resists over and over again until she kisses him.

    I can believe that based on Johnson saying Trevorrow wanted that Rey/Poe moment at the end of TLJ, based on the Jurassic Worlds with Claire and Owen, and based on Ridley and Isaac singing together in late 2015. Too bad there was no real in-depth set up for it compared to say Rey/Finn from the previous episodes.



    In the last episodes of Star Wars Rebels (which were obviously planned and made long before airing on TV in late 2017/early 2018), the Mortis gods were referenced.



    I also noticed that this looks like Mortis concept got repurposed in Episode IX at some point into something else.

    Chris Taylor: "Personally, I find myself aligned with several Lucasfilm employees I spoke with at the Rise of Skywalker premiere, the ones who confessed that they'd been upset by Rey Palpatine for months." (December 20, 2019)

    Also this script sounds also like there's way too much going on once again and is overly convoluted with way too many characters focused on/divided up.
     
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    Eww. Okay that's not creepy at all especially since they've essentially just met. Just because two people are being friends with each other [in that Twitter video] doesn't mean their being groomed for boyfriend and girlfriend material... and just because Mortis was referenced in Rebels doesn't mean it was going to be in IX. I'd say the same thing for Palpatine in CT's script. Trevorrow has said that his IX never had Palpatine.

    Side note: I'm surprised CT hasn't commented on this leak yet. He said the MSW was a fake before so maybe it hasn't been brought to his attention yet?
     
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    AV Club - Turns out Colin Trevorrow’s version of Star Wars: Episode IX was good, actually

    Evidently Trevorrow meant he didn't bring Palpatine back from the dead nor as a Rey's grandpa in his Episode IX; Palpatine was just a hologram in the draft script Burnett's been speaking about.

     
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    That has "anonymous and inexperienced amatuer who doesn't understand basic narrative cohesion wants to give his 'story idea' more weight by name-dropping" all over it. What really impresses me in regards to TROS is that narrative cohesion extending through the entire nine-episode story; the reprisal of themes reaching all the way back to TPM, the motifs guiding the movement which also reprise the motifs of the PT and OT in regards to the significance of identity and the way the narrative continues that idea in a new way that flows naturally from the former while adding a new dimension to it being just one example. The film has something to say, which elevates what the first six episodes had to say by reprising the theme of identity and reframing it in a different and poignant way.

    This thing has none of that. It's just a series of events loosely connected by a through-line. It has nothing to say and no meaningful connection with anything coming before it. It's a prime example of an empty box which is why I'd conclude it's the work of someone with no experience or understanding of the purpose of a story and give Colin Trevorrow the benefit of the doubt by keeping his name as disconnected from this as is possible.
     
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    I still think it’s tough to give a verdict by a script without seeing the execution. I read many spoilers leading up to TROS and I wasn’t impressed, yet I ended up loving the movie.

    Han Solo comes back???
    Luke only gets one scene???
    Ben Solo gets redeemed???
    Rey Palpatine???
    Rey Skywalker at the end of the movie???

    These are all spoilers I did not like on paper, yet many of them are my favorite moments now.
     
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    As a FinnRey fan (and a minor FinnRose fan), I dislike this. But Oscar Isaac is so good he has chemistry with anything and everything, so I could believe it. It almost sounds like they wanted to do a new version of Han and Leia's romance. But the thing is, Han and Leia's romance - according to the girls I've watched ESB with - is bad. It hasn't aged well and made them uncomfortable. Trying to recreate that with a pushy guy is just as bad as what we got, honestly. That being said, I could see it, if I squint.

    That's hilarious. I'd actually like that.

    ...yeah, no. The Sith should have been gone post OT, period. Had it been a Sith Holocron that helped finish Kylo's training, I'd be all in. But actual living Sith bother me.

    That's cool!


    ...meeting on Mortis could totally work. Meeting in the WBW and screwing up the timeline w9uld be dangerous but could work. Destroying the universe and creating a new one ala DC Comic's Crisis on Infinite Earths...well...it sounds weird to me.

    And that is fine. It'd complete the inversion of Vader. Kylo starts out as a Vader-wannabe, yet decides to forge his own path, however tragic that may be. It stinks for the rest of the Skywalker family though.
     
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    Just to throw this out there:
    1. Something that's important to remember is that this is purported to be a script draft... not an actual final shooting script. It would contain story ideas that weren't fully developed or may not have survived to a finalized version. Likewise additional elements could have been added to address gaps or story needs.
    2. Without seeing that actual script, we're just following a narrative summary. Like reading a 3 or 4 paragraph plot summary on Wikipedia or IMDB, there's going to be lots of MIA details that might contextualize or fill in the blanks on how the story moves from plot point to plot point.
    Looking at the info that is provided, I think there's some good ideas and a couple of dumb sounding ones. It seems like a movie that flows more directly from TLJ and which seeks to play out the ST characters storylines apart from some type of overarching saga narrative (which according to Chris Terrio recently, was a plot demand that originated from Kennedy).

    If it is legit, I'd honestly be bummed out a bit. There's some intriguing stuff in there... more importantly, I believe that with some polishing there is a great movie that could have emerged.
     
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