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RUMOR Another report of what Colin Trevorrow's IX would have been like.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Andrew Waples, Jan 14, 2020.

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    I don’t think I’ve ever delved into my thoughts on Trevorrow’s pitch for Episode 9 on this forum. While I like and prefer elements of it to TROS, I think that it’s far worse than what we got. And that’s coming from a guy was initially very disappointed with how Episode 9 turned out and I’m still the not the biggest fan of it, though I do find it to be pretty entertaining.

    There are just so many elements of Duel of the Fates that are very weird and not in a good way: Rey “Solana”, Kylo getting half of his face mutilated, Chewie flying an X-Wing, and a scene with Jedi fanboy Hux “losing the Star Wars” and killing himself with Mace Windu’s lightsaber. TROS had some weird elements to, but they weren’t quite as out there.

    All of that being said, there are some big elements that I vastly prefer to what we ended up getting in TROS: Coruscant being the setting for the climactic final battle, Finn leading a larger stormtrooper rebellion, Rose not being completely sidelined, and the film showing Rey starting a new Jedi Order at the end. I even prefer the title of “Duel of the Fates” by a slim margin. Certain ideas like Mortis playing a role and the character of Tor Valum were pretty interesting to me, but I don’t think they would have necessarily fit in the end.

    I guess my ideal Episode 9 would have been a combination of the best parts from TROS and DOTF. Palpatine would still be the big bad, but instead of a convoluted clone plot, his role would be spiritual and not corporeal. In my version, he’d be influencing Kylo Ren via the Sith Holocron (like in DOTF) and ultimately trick him into fulfilling his goal of returning to the world of living. Maybe the essence of a battle to end all battles, along with some Force mumbo jumbo, can bring Palpatine’s spirit back to life. Kylo realizes the error of his ways, and after one final meeting with his mother, he gives up his dark persona and teams up with Rey and friends. Rey and Ben fight against Palpatine as he’s crossing from the underworld, and with the help of the Jedi spirits, they ultimately destroy his spirit forever. Finn leads a major stormtrooper rebellion and his Force abilities start to manifest in a more overt way that in TROS, with the help of Rose. Poe could have more of an arc with him coming out of Leia’s shadow and embracing his role as a leader in the Resistance. He leads the galaxy fleet and maybe gives his life in the final battle. The film ends with an exiled Ben and Rey restarting the Jedi Order on Ahch-To. I’m somewhat spitballing here, but something like this would be my idealized version of Episode 9.
     
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    I actually really like the cloning idea. That was interesting new angle to take, imo. But otherwise, I completely agree. I think both versions have their share of good and not-so-good ideas, which makes me wish we could've mashed them together somehow and gotten the best of both. :)
    I still think this is one of the funniest things in all of Star Wars. :p
     
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    The choice of the title Duel Of The Fates makes me think of when indie/art rock bands name themselves after an album, song or part of a song by their favourite band. Like Radiohead, and Slowdive. Or the epitome of that The Clash: Live At Demonhead (the name of Brie Larson's band in Scott Pilgrim) :rolleyes:
     
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    The Rise of the Fates

    :p
     
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    Duel of Skywakers.
     
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    That would be one epic title.
     
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    Truly wonderful the mind of a child is.


    - this is the quote that comes to mind when I watch a JJ Abrams movie.
     
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    What could have been...
     
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    The draft of Treverrow's script that got leaked was a third or fourth pass-through and was most likely finished before Carrie Fisher died in December 2016.

    We know this because Carrie's death forced him to completely go back to Stage 1 and try to figure out a story without Leia's involvement, which is something he was never able to do even after Lucasfilm gave him a writing partner in Jack Thorne.
     
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