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Another thread about a RO mistake...

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by master_shaitan, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. master_shaitan

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    I've only watched the film once on premier night so perhaps someone can help me out here. But in RO Galen Erso builds a fault into the Death Star, right? And in the movie the Empire discovers this. They know he has betrayed them. They then know that the Rebels mount a daring and suicidal attack to retrieve the plans that contain the flaw, right?

    So why in ANH then would the Imperials have this exchange:

    TAGGE
    And what of the Rebellion? If the
    Rebels have obtained a complete
    technical readout of this station,
    it is possible, however unlikely,
    that they might find a weakness and
    exploit it.

    VADER
    The plans you refer to will soon be
    back in our hands.

    MOTTI
    Any attack made by the Rebels against
    this station would be a useless
    gesture, no matter what technical
    data they've obtained. This station
    is now the ultimate power in the
    universe. I suggest we use it!

    I mean, they know there is a weakness built in. They know the Rebels will know how to exploit it. Why are there questions about this? And thus would Tarkin be wise to stay on the Death Star at all?
     
    #1 master_shaitan, Jan 12, 2017
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    IIRC (having watched it twice thus far) they only knew that Galen had been smuggled a message outside, but had no idea regarding the content of the message.

    It would (retroactively) appear that Taggi, as the commander-in-chief of the Imperial Starfleet, had also gotten word of it and came to the (personal) conclusion that it could only be a message containing a hint for a weakness of the Death Star.

    But since he had no proof whatsoever, he was carefully choosing his words during the Death Star conference. Motti's arrogance and overconfidence in the station's capabilities was apparently enough to discourage him from pursuing the matter any further.

    Besides, Taggi couldn't possibly be interested in the Death Star to suceed as it probably would have come at the expense of the Starfleet, so he put the matter to rest.
     
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    The Empire doesn't know about weakness, the only one who realized - Krennic - died on Scarif and that is clear only in novelization. They know that Rebels have the plans but they don't believe that they can do anything with them.

    Only when Rebels attack, this happens:



    They analyze Rebellion's strategy and someone discovers the weakness. But, see how he says it: "There is a danger." They are still not completely convinced that Rebels can do it - hit that termal exhaust port. And Tarkin is arrogant bastard, so... Buy-buy, Tarkin.

    I suggest reading the novelization, not because of this, but because of the ingenious way Galen sets his trap - by exploiting the greatest weakness not just of the Empire, but of any system - it's bureaucracy. :D
     
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    Ok thanks for the info. But what exactly do they think Galen told the rebels?
     
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    That Death Star exists at all. Rebels only learn that fact from him. Remember, Jedha was a 'mining accident', the Senate still exists and DS is a secret. Later, the Empire became aware that he told them where they can find the plans for it as well.
     
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    Ok, lock her up! Thanks again
     
    #6 master_shaitan, Jan 12, 2017
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    Not sure they know. Krennic knew but he didn't tell anyone and he died.
     
    #7 Bandini, Jan 12, 2017
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    Wonder what would have happened had he told anyone. It was his responsibility not to let such a thing happen, so he did what he could until his last minute to prevent the Alliance from acquiring the plans.

    Not only would this have saved his neck, but perhaps he could have exploited that exclusive information at a later time as leverage or bargaining chip.

    Imagine Tarkin sailing away with the Death Star (the original materials suggested such aspirations!), trying to use it for personal purposes. By that time Krennic would have discovered the flaw and could have helped the Emperor to stop Tarkin.

    Either way, there was no reason for Krennic to share what he knew with anybody else.
     
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    I don't think they knew. Galen Erso slipped it by them, I believe.
     
    #9 Sage Ehlers, Apr 22, 2017
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