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SPECULATION Any Chance of "I Am Your Father" Twist In The Last Jedi?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by 77th, Nov 29, 2017.

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Will be a "I Am Your Father" Scene In TLJ

  1. Yes. It's Obvious Kylo Ren is the true Luke Skywalker Son

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  2. No. There's no hiden Parentages is Star Wars anymore, let's just enjoy the Movie

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  3. Yes. Luke finally reveals himself as Rey long lost Father

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  4. Yes. Snoke tried to destroy the Galaxy just to find his baby daughter

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    3.7%
  1. 77th

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    I just would like to share a though with all of you SW Fans like me, since "The Force Awakens" is mostly a rehash of "A New Hope" do you guys thing "The Last Jedi" will resemble "The Empire Strikes Back"?

    Of course we have the big Land Battle of Hoth\Crath, the Journey to CloudCity\CantoBigh, the shady betrayer Lando\DJ character, the Good Guy - Bad Guy stand down in the final moments of the movie (Luke-Snoke?) is really that out there to consider a major plot twist revelation in the end of the movie?

    Personally i consider the "Luke I Am Your Father" scene in TESB the biggest\coolest plot twist in movie history, why not expect a similar "tribute" or "Inspiration" in the Last Jedi?

    Let's think about it for a while, it makes much more sense Luke's son be Ben than Rey, why would Leia call her son "Ben"?, Luke might be tributing his old master but Leia? If there's a Luke offspring to hide and protect why not hide it in plain sight with his sister? Can the turning to the Dark Side of Ben the reason for Luke's self imposed exile, because he don't wan't to face his own son?

    Evidences and suppositions aside i believe Ben being Luke's son would make a much more dramatic and twisted story and would keep the "Rey is just a Girl, a No One" a good marketing decision to continue the SW Saga without the Skywalkers after the End of Luke (leaving for nowhere in the end á la Paul Atreides) and the death\sacrifice\redemption of Ben Skywalker.

    On the other hand the TESB final evocation might lead to Luke reveal as Rey Father in the final scenes of TLj but i believe there's no impact in that revelation since everybody kinda suspects that and if that was the case the best option is to let it out in the beginning of the movie, just like Kylo Ren and Han Solo Parentage reveal in the start of TFA. But Let's not rule out the option of Rey being Snoke's daughter, witch Luke steal away for her protection, since Snoke might have read to many Theogany and wanted to kill all of his offspring.

    So whay you guys think, does this theory have a leg to stand on or is just a fan love for ancient characters?
     
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    First of all TFA isn't a rehash of ANH. Yes, it has similar beats, but it plays out differently. ANH is story driven, TFA is character driven.

    Leia and Han called their son Ben because Kenobi brought them all together. I think that's actually canon.

    Some people don't seem to understand what a twist actually is. A twist turns the story in a different direction without destroying the story which was already established. Furthermore a twist doesn't need to be an unexpected event.

    But to answer your question: no, there won't be a "I'm your father" scene in TLJ. I think the "twist" of this trilogy has to do with the destruction of Luke's academy (respectively with Ben's fall to the dark side) or there is a twist for Rey's abandonment on Jakku.

    But do we really need a twist in TLJ? A great movie doesn't need to have a twist after all.
     
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    No it wasn't and no it's not.

    You mean you've seen TLJ and know all of this? No

    Because it won't be

    But Ben is not Luke's son. Didn't you watch TFA? See it wasn't like ANH at all.

    Rey will be a random, but Ben is a Solo. You can't call an audible in the middle of the story and change Ben Solo to be Luke's son. Which would be pretty crazy when he's already been established as Leia and Han's son.

    I can rule out Rey being Snoke's daughter because,well, she's not.

    I disagree with it, but you love star wars like us all and have theories.
     
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    Hahahahaha! Calling TFA not a rehash of ANH!

    Yeah & in no way the Go-Bots r a ripoff of Transformers! Hahahahaha!:D
     
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    If there is an "I am your father" moment I wouldn't mind. But I think half of the audience might throw up/run out of the theater screaming about how the sequel trilogy is just a rehash of the original trilogy. For that reason I think there won't be.
     
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    We dont need a big twist for the sequels. This trilogy can be excelent without a big surprise.
     
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    It can be solid, but not legendary. I want legendary.
     
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    I am good with solid. TFA was excelent, just hope TLJ and IX keep the same level.
     
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    And that's cool. But I hope that VIII or IX is the best Star Wars movie ever. Period.
     
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    It isn't...but in no way was ANH a rip off A Hidden Fortress...shhh don't tell anyone.
     
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    And for the record, I'm glad TFA was just solid. It was a good baseline to establish confidence in where Disney was taking it. Now they have a little bit of leeway to try something big.
     
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    i dunno man, Leia was definitely pregnant with a male child; that's canon. Luke couldn't possibly be the father. unless.... :eek::confused:(gamorrean)

    i suppose Leia's boy could have died or been a non-character in TFA, but that wouldn't explain why Han says to Kylo Ren how he wants to see the face of his son, etc.
     
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    I didn't vote in the poll because I don't think it will be any of those. But I do think any kind of shocking revelation ( short of Rey belonging to Luke and Leia:confused:) is on the table. I think in the end the reveal will be less shocking then whatever explaination is offered for it.
     
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    Well didn't that Japanese promotional materials say it was "shocking", "to the core" & "will shake up the saga 4ever"?

    Maybe Snoke was the first Jedi, or something like dat?
     
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    I voted “no” simply because I don’t believe there will be that type of major plot twist but I’ve been wrong once or twice, so...:)
     
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    I Think TFA must be the BEST SW Movie Ever in "Photography Quality" and excelent "Artistic Direction", by the way the Sound Engineering was WAY OVER THE TOP, BUT the Story beneath it was so POOR not even LK dialogues could save it, just a bad script on an amazing cinematographic adbventure.

    Just hope the next SW Movies could get better Plot Stories and not only Disney basic approach to Movie Writting, just compare how great Pixar "Toy Story" is in complex story telling and try search for similar Disney Movies (ok, Pixar's "Cars" is just as awfull as any Disney Movie). By the Way, even "Rogue One", a SUPER entertainment Movie and a very good addiction to SW major Saga lacks from better Story.

    The Original Star Wars Movies had AMAZING STORIES despite all the problems in realizationa and the tremendous lack of founds to produce when compared to the great movies of today but we all still remember them as Movie Excelence. Even the Star Wars Prequels had a Super Backstory behind them they just got a little lost in their path (POd Races, Senate Discussions, Droid Factories, Underwater Ventures, etc.), but if we strip the extra stuff we will keep a very strong Movie Story with LEGENDARY Elements (Rise and Fall of Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine Ascension, Jedi Order Massacre, Clone War).

    In the End i just want to understate that the STORY is the biggest part of any Movie and i sincerelly hope The Last Jedi delivers a Star Wars Class Plot (the choice over Ryan Johnson seems a pretty good one, he has imagination and doesn't fear to take chances).
     
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    I consider TFA an excelent movie because JJ and the rest of the professionals in charge of cast and responsibles for the creation of the new characters did such a perfect job, something that the prequels failed with the cast of both actors to play Anakin for example. The most important thing in SW is the creation of strong and interesting characters and TFA nailed it.
    Agree with you. Visually TFA is the most interesnting of the entire saga. So many epic shots.
     
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    I don't think there'll be an "I am your father" moment. But I am expecting some sort of twist that will rock our perspectives of what has come before. Go on Rian, you can do it!!
     
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    Me too.
     
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    Totally agree.

    Something like Luke being the one to (accidentally) destroy the Temple housing new generation of Jedi, hints of a history between him and Snoke, etc., would be much more interesting a twist and raise much more questions than something like “Rey, Luke is your father.”
     
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