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As someone who hated TFA initially my final synopsis is that it was OK

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by YubNubBub, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. YubNubBub

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    I initially had hatred for TFA. My final opinion is that it was OK. My username does not reflect how I currently feel.

    There is good and bad to the film. Just like any film.

    I'd say it all depends on our point of view. Many of the truths we clinge to depend on our point of view.

    Many exhaustive reviews have been done on TFA. From great reviews to horrible reviews. Taken in balance, everything, I think anyone of sane mind will finally conclude it was an OK movie.

    Alot of the criticisms come from disregard for Star Wars lore and the rules. These rules are like an energy field, that surrounds us, penetrates us, binds the galaxy together.

    An example: "She is just beginning to test her powers. The longer it takes to find her, the more dangerous she becomes." I was under the impression from the Star Wars saga, that someone needed to be an apprentice and train for years to use force powers. I was never aware it was possible to self train and use the force, as Rey has done. Perhaps this will be explained in the next movie?

    As you can see, reasons like the one above are what have many people upset. Not just a select small few, mind you, but a sizeable fanbase. That was just one example but countless reviews are out and a growing voice of incompatibility with prior Star Wars films. Perhaps you can see clearer as to why there has grown such a rebel resistance, and refrain from sending probe droids to hunt down these rebels.

    Onto what I liked. The film indeed had action. The film indeed took us in a new direction with characters and galaxies. The film had engrossing practical effects which were enjoyable. Just a few reasons why TFA was enjoyable.

    More things I didn't like. We didn't get to see many ideas to enrich the universe. From interstellar nascar (Pod racing) to a Alien Gladiator arena on Genonoshia (I believe), we didn't get to see the universe enriched by adding character in the universe.

    More things I liked. I did enjoy the Star Killer base. Although, poorly executed IMO, it was interesting to see another weapon capable of destroying multiple planets in a single blow. Disregarding the fact the solar systems were inaccurately represented, and it is scientifically impossible to feed Star Killers base with a suns energy without repercussion nor fit that amount of energy into a planet, it was still refreshing to see a different unique devastating weapon.

    So my final thoughts are... this was an OK film. You will find without subjective viewpoints on the strengths and weaknesses of the film, there can be no balance in the universe. This kind of critical thinking and positivity thinking to the film, will begin to make things right.
     
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    I truly wish people would stop posting posts telling others on how one is suppose to think about TFA. Get over it already. Plenty like and love it.

    So you're saying those who like it and gave really good reviews which was pretty high on Rotten Tomatoes are insane if we don't agree with you.

    You thought it was just OK. Well good for you.

    I guess you never watched ESB? Where Luke tested his powers he barely had by trying to lift the x wing out of the swamp.

    Some maybe upset, most are not. Silly arguments and nitpicks.
     
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  3. YubNubBub

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    Luke was under a training regiment with Yoda. He was not self training but rather testing his powers under tutelage. Easily refuted my good sir. As I said, without any critical thinking, you will have no balance and see the movie for how it truely is.

    I never said anything of the sort regarding reviews and the above statement or that you are insane for liking the movie. Alot of people loved it, a sizeable fanbase has emerged that hates it. I seek balance between the two. Twisted by the dark side young Bluemilk has become, the boy you knew, gone he is.
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    Of course as someone who thinks critically and positively about the movie. We can also argue Rey was under some sort of tutelage. "Rey these are your first steps" comparable to "You have just taken your first steps into a larger world" as with Luke Skywalker. You can see where I am going with this. Without the critical aspect and positive aspect in your thinking, you can achieve no balance in the universe.

    However we can also argue there was no physical active presence as with Luke and Obi Wan to guide her. Also no audible queues in the movie to suggest she was being guided behind the scenes.

    The movie literally is a catch 22.
     
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    Please dont tell me you liked R1 better than TFA...
     
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    Hahaha. I did indeed enjoy Rogue One.

    I also enjoyed certain aspects of TFA while simultaneously not enjoying other aspects.

    As I said, many of the truths we clinge to depend on our point of view.
     
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    You mean many beliefs in peoples point of view we truly clinge on. We as SW fans always want certain things to happen to keep our "hopes" up. The whole SW story is to build our truths in a galaxy we all want, either light or dark, we all want some way to make each other a means of hope. but i didnt like R1. when they all died it was great ending...
     
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    Indeed. We all want Star Wars to relate to us which is inherently selfish. The movie is made for everyone. For all you Jar Jar haters SHAME on you for hating on a childrens character when his purpose was to bring children and adults together to enjoy the saga of Star Wars. The Phantom Menace still retained key plot points and enough adult orientated material to keep you entertained. Let the kids have Jar Jar! The shame!

    It is all about our point of view, and what makes a movie great. It is also about overcoming the idea that the movie was made just for you.

    Its about growth and letting Star Wars be Star Wars, and to allow it to transport you into a magical mystical world. It is about honest reflection, honesty in putting yourself in someone elses viewpoint and developing from there. Its about appreciating Star Wars for its vast reach. Its about balance.

    I did like Rogue One and sorry you didn't like it as much as I did. Perhaps there are parts of it you can appreciate, new technologies, or raw fun, that will make it more appealing?
     
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    Ohhh you mean that crash course fast food drive through called training. Uh, huh...

    You sure did. You said" You'd have to be sane to find it an OK movie"
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    My thinking is fine. You,me, us, we all have no idea about her training but her survival instincts she has learned along the way certainly got her somewhere.

    Besides why do you think it's called" The Force Awakens"

    Did the Force pick the wrong person according to your thinking? Another thing Luke used the force to beat the best pilot in the galaxy with NO training to destroy the Deathstar.

    Yes...The Force. Luke and Obi Wan are not the force. She only needs guided to someone just like Luke was guided to Obi Wan who guided him to Yoda.

    Only in your mind my young padawan
     
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    Once you get what The Force Awakens is really about, it is brilliant. There is not a single plothole in it.
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Do you want us to change it, out of curiosity?
     
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    OthersdidntlikeTFA seems now better :D
     
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    that's why its called an opinion.
     
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    NO. I said "Taken in balance, everything, I think anyone of sane mind will finally conclude it was an OK movie." I was speaking from a former hatred position after taking the movie in its entire context meaning I can't see how anyone of sound mind could HATE THE MOVIE.

    You know what? At this point its apparent you want to argue and I am not going to fall for your bait.

    Rather than go into your twisted vortex, this movie is a catch 22 within the Star Wars universe, PERIOD. I could go detailed into scenes and I will briefly just to show your ineptitude. Even the Tie Fighter escaping the Star Destroyer had flaws. Noticable visible camera flaws. Somehow they are outside the ship shooting the guns on the bottom then fly out the middle of the ship? (Oh and I dare you to try and argue some workaround out in your mind on this, I honestly want to see you try it. Watch the scene a thousand times if you have to but its a MISTAKE and I got a smoking gun if you try to say those guns were in the middle of the ship, or that they flew up inside the ship for a brief moment of protection. Smoking GUN.)

    I know you will have some sort of appearingly witty reply, but don't bother and save it for someone else unless you have crossed the fence and gave critical and both positive reviews a chance and then formed your position, which is clear you haven't.

    Only in YOUR mind. (Force Choking You)
     
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    Opinion taken.
     
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    Yeah actually I want my name to say "YubNubBub". I don't want to have this username no more and never saw an option to change it.
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    I rule it an ok movie, but say your wrong on that statement.
     
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    An opinion is saying;I think TFA was just OK, I didn't like it, I hated it, etc, not telling others how you should dislike a movie. That's telling others how to think.

    I respect he doesn't like it and that is cool by me.
     
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    Done!
     
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    Make me believe it's not so~!
     
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