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Ben & Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Klai Kenobi, Jan 26, 2017.

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    we got serious daddy issues aplenty in the ST already ~ do we really need more? hahahaha

    but i agree: Looper was quite the revelation--not so much a twist, but an amazing way for everything to finally come together.
    i'm really hoping we get something that unexpected and that satisfying with this trilogy!
     
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    Hard to say how all this will shake out. I’m personally conflicted. Part of me wants Rey to be a Skywalker. Part of me wants her to be someone new. I have a hard time regardless making the leap that Luke would somehow be responsible for her condition at the start of TFA. Especially since Lor San Tekka and his Force loving hippy commune were right down the road. Y'know?
     
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    i agree ~ i wouldn't be happy with any outome in which Luke somehow didn't know he had a daughter or deliberately didn't raise her.
    and to know our OT heroes did this bad of a job with Ben, the thought of them being directly responsible for putting another kid in even worse straits just kinda makes me seethe ~ hahaha
     
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    Depends on whether or not Lor San Tekka was playing the Obi Wan role of silent and somewhat distant observer and protector. We have the Church of the Force that LST was part of as well as The Guardians of the Whills as canon, so why not non Force sensitive acolytes assisting the Jedi on a secret mission. Heck, LST even referred to Leia as royalty and was assumed to be an Alderaanian refugee and soldier of fortune. Makes sense for him to take on a mission to protect Rey. I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that Luke had a vision of the future (like he showed with Yoda in ESB) and took extraordinary measures to protect Rey. If he had a vision of her as some dark queen, it would also help explain the look on his face when Rey finally showed up on his doorstep.

    "Dabgummit, I went to all this trouble to keep her disconnected from the Force. Now I really understand what Yoda meant about the future being in constant motion and difficult to see."

    Either way, I would be truly surprised if Rey was not an offspring of Anakin. Especially considering her vision when first touching the lightsaber. That would take some really out there contortions to explain if she was just some random orphan.

    Only 11 more months until we get to start on a whole other set of speculations and crazy fan theories.
     
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    Awesome post, man. Thanks for being the voice of reason on this. I'm back and forth on whether she is Han and Leia's daughter or Luke's, but either way this particular Saga is about the Skywalkers. For people to think she's some other random Jedi, or even worse, say that they would hate it if she were a Skywalker do not understand what this Saga is about. It's so annoying to me.
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    I hear more people having a hard time with it because they think it would shrink the universe and why do another Skywalker story.. These are the people whom claim to be SW fans, but never quite studied film or grasped what this Saga is about(THE SKYWALKERS). It's as annoying as band wagon fans in sports.
     
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    Posted this in another thread but I think it is appropriate for conversation here as well. This discussion made me go back and have another look with an eye toward clues to Rey's parentage. I also agree that the timing I suggested earlier about Rey being dropped off after Ben Solo was turned by Snoke doesn't work, but maybe my thoughts about Luke having a Force vision of a potential future still does...

    I rewatched TFA last night and caught a line that I had mentally skipped over before. When Kylo Ren is attempting to probe Rey's mind he says "You've been so lonely. So afraid to leave. At night, desperate to sleep, you'd imagine an ocean. I can see it, I can see the island."

    I don't believe this is just a throwaway line. Either Rey was having visions of the future or she was remembering her time on an island with her family. IE: Luke and Ahch-to.
     
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    but...if the objective was to hide Rey, why would anyone remove her from Ahch-To--an island so impossible to find that the whole galaxy has been killing eachother to find it?

    Rey's vision of the island seems prescient more than anything else. it's also natural she would dream of a place completely unlike the desert she lives on.
    and no, it's not a throwaway line at all. the other real takeaway is that Kylo Ren is being self-reflexive about Rey's loneliness and fear and a desire for escape.
     
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    I am wondering if Luke is having his own feelings of inadequacy and identified Rey as potentially so powerful that he didn't want to lose her to the dark side the way Obi Wan felt he lost Anakin??? So what to do...stop her training, wipe her memory, and put her somewhere so far out of the way that his fears for the future couldn't come to pass and his look of resignation at the end of TFA was acceptance that he couldn't circumvent the will of the Force.

    The next 11 months are going to kill me because it is not as if we are going to get any answers out of the trailers. I am still thinking that there has to be a Rey family connection to the Skywalkers, it is after all what the saga is about and the inevitable confrontation between Jaina and Jacen was a central theme in the EU.
     
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    Rey is Lea's and Han's second child..
     
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    I still think Rey could be the product of the Force. The Mother in question may never be revealed, because she's just some random. It would be the same as Anakin. She was produced to defeat the KOR, after the Jedi were all but destroyed to bring balance to the Force. Sort of a repetitive Jedi Prophecy. It's all cyclical, a constant balance and unbalance in either direction. The Force creates a demigod of sorts as a counter.
     
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    This could be why Luke wants to change things up by eliminating the Jedi order and starting a more realistic outlook on life, love and balance. It's the only way to break the cycle as the paradox will continue as long as there is pure goodness there is pure evil. Many hate the idea of the prophecy re-occurring, but I'd be fine with it if the films are entertaining and they stop copying many of the other elements shot by shot. I understand these are heroes journeys that stick to a certain formula, but a talented writer and director should think of some original material in such a vast and detailed universe in Star Wars.
     
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    A couple thy would make, in TFA they proved better as enemies than lovers.
     
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