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Ben Solo will end the Skywalker Legacy?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Darth Chewie, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. Darth Chewie

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    Let's face it, the Skywalkers (with the exception of Leia) have done more harm, and have shown lack of good judgement time and time again, and it's results have usually been disastrous. Examples... It was a Skywalker's power and his poor judgement that helped Palpatine become Emperor. Luke was always fueled on emotion... racing to save his friends on Bespin and nearly got him self killed. Older Jedi Master Luke, in an emotional moment, nearly murdered his nephew, which sparked Bens final turn towards the dark side, and ultimately helping Snoke and The First Order rise to power. And then there is that said "Ben Solo".... once again demonstrating that 'Skywalker blood' seems to be worse for the Galaxy than good.

    So if the story arc is indeed going to go the route of a Ben Solo redemption, perhaps he will follow his on philosophy and "let the past die....". I suggest that Ben may ultimately come to the realization that the Skywalker bloodline needs to end for the greater good of the galaxy. In coming to that realization, he will sacrifice himself, ending a reign of terror that "Force Using" Skywalker's have brought to the galaxy for 3 generations.
     
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    Of course, the Skywalker line will end with Ben Skywalker . I mean, there are, if I'm counting correct, only two possibilities for an end where it wouldn't:
    - There is somebody pregnant by him, maybe Rey? :confused:
    - Like with Leia before, we will have a "You're a Skywalker"moment again :rolleyes:

    Both possibilities aren't my choice. The only way I could accept the last one, would be, if they make Lieutenant Connix to Leia's daughter... but then again, this would be weird, too.
     
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    I don't know about that... I don't like the idea of villainising or diminishing the Skywalkers. Luke is the ultimate hero and inspiration despite his failures - that's what TLJ says. Even Anakin did the right thing when the moment came.

    I've noticed that "bloodline is not important/everybody can be a hero" is a thing now. That's a total non-message if you ask me (this idea should be obvious to all SW fans), but whatever, let's roll with it for a moment... So, it's OK to say you don't have to be a Skywalker to be destined for greatness, but if you're a Skywalker, you're lost, because your lineage is kind of cursed? Better end the bloodline? Makes no sense to me. If we disregard familial legacy as a thing, let's be fair and not make it a bad thing either.

    I'm an avid supporter of Ben's redemption, but I don't think this is the right approach. The bloodline can end with him. I'm cool if it does, I really am. But he doesn't have to die and the Skywalkers don't have to be deemed worth destroying. Hell, even Ben sacrificing himself for a good cause, thus ending the Skywalker legacy, would make more sense than ending the lineage because of a realisation that the Skywalkers do too much harm to go on.

    No disrespect to your theory, though.
     
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    He is a horrid pathetic character set up for eye candy for girls. So hopefully yes but this Disney so nope.
     
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    I'm supposed to blind accept this crap, considering the bad decisions made by other Star Wars characters who weren't Skywalkers? This is a stupid reason to end the Skywalker family saga.


    And if Ben Solo is supposed to be the end of the Skywalker line, then I'm through with Disney and its botched up job of the saga. The studio and Lucasfilm should have left the family saga alone if this is what they were going with. I'm so pissed right now. I can't believe that this is what Kathleen Kennedy was aiming for. Or that this was the reason for this mediocre piece of crap called the "Sequel Trilogy".
     
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    It's ok for stories to end -- in fact, all stories do!

    I don't understand why a three-generation family saga told over an unprecedented three cinematic trilogies isn't enough for some people. It's not like the Skywalker line has existed for all eternity and it will be a great tragedy for it to end. In fact, the bloodline is in some respects unnatural, an anomaly created to reestablish balance within the Force. Once that balance is reestablished, it makes perfect narrative sense for the bloodline to go back to where it came from -- nowhere.
    If love something you do, set it free. (yoda)
     
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    Disney should have left the damn family saga alone and simply FOCUS on new characters. Kathleen Kennedy is screwing up George Lucas' work. I just can't stand this damn garbage. "The Last Jedi" was the last straw. Enjoy it all you want. Go ahead and buy Disney's crap. Just don't expect me to accept it. I'm through.
     
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    "Mediocre piece of crap called the sequel trilogy."

    And yet you liked the prequels?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Be careful , voicing your opinion is dangerous these days around divided fans :( I wouldve been more interested in seeing a new story set a few hundred years down the track that didnt affect any of the OT characters as they had already dropped off the perch,
    Maybe Disney are really very Pro-prequel fans and just wanted to flip the bird at the old OT fans by killing off the old crew :)
     
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    Ben Solo won't end the Skywalker line but it might end with him. I'm almost positive that he won't die and that if he does, he'll die a heroic death. Why? Just because of how popular he is compared to the other ST characters. He's the memorable one. The one that kids want to dress up as. The whose merch sells the best.

    He's the one written with conflict and with a well thought out arc.
    Moree importantly, people sympathise with him. Even people who disliked TLJ came away liking Kylo Ren. Read through any (admittedly cancerous) TLJ comment section, you'll see what I mean. Even the critics have nothing but praise for him.

    Like it or not, this Saga is just as much about Ben Solo and his story as it is Rey's. And Adam Driver has been KILLING it.

    But we agree on the eye candy bit. Mans is thicc.

    Anyway, he'll turn. The Skywalker is too strong in him. :)
     
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    The Skywalker saga won't end with a tragedy. It will end with peace and harmony. Ben Solo will bring an end to the Skywakers' curse and the pain which the Skywalker moms had to bear.
    Rey could be the first Skywalker/Solo mother (if ReyBen happens of course) who can raise her children without any conflict or dark side.

    The ending of the Skywalker saga doesn't mean that the Skywalker need to die. There can be offsprings who don't have to take part in the next stories. Or they are taking part in a smaller degree, but they aren't responsible for the conflicts anymore.

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    I'm sorry, but Kylo Ren is one the best Star Wars characters ever. Okay, maybe I'm a little bit biased here.
     
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    Benny boy at the end of the trilogy.

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    I respectfully disagree, because it's kind of like a paradox. I'll explain below.

    Let's look at it this way. If you take the Skywalkers out of Star Wars lore completely, you'd still have Palpatine planning the Jedi Purge and taking control of the galaxy. Instead of Vader, Palpatine would simply have another apprentice. You'd still possibly have the Rebels and everything thanks to Bail and Mon Mothma, but who'd destroy the Sith in Anakin and Luke's place? Someone else probably, if that's even possible. Even so, if that someone manages to destroy the Sith in Anakin and Luke's place, they would be seen as the savior of the galaxy right?

    The paradox here is that "someone" would have to have an interesting story themselves in order to work as a character. It would be pretty boring to have someone like Kenobi or Yoda destroy the Sith at the end of ROTJ. Where's the dark side struggle for Kenobi and Yoda? They're both paragon characters. So, it would have to be someone struggling with the dark side, just like the Skywalkers. They would not be the Skywalkers, but they would be pretty similar and fans would therefore still attack them for bringing a "reign of terror" to the galaxy for 3 generations. And that's the paradox.

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    Ben is a skywalker by blood, Rey is a skywalker by action.
     
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    Rey foresaw that Ben will turn to the light...it didn’t happen when she thought, but I think that vision will hold true. If he does, he may be the one who needs to live in exile given the atrocities he committed throughout the galaxy. But ultimately I do think the Skywalker line will continue. They are not going to make Ep. X for a long time but it will happen and it will involve the Skywalkers.
     
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    Kylo Ren/Ben Solo 4 evah!

    I don't care how Ep IX ends as long as m'boy is sittin' pretty on either side of the conflict. Redeem? Full Sith? Don't care. Just as long as it's cool and he's alive so they can make books about him for me to buy ^_^
     
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    This one really has become the best Star Wars meme in the galaxy.
     
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    It was almost prescient, to be honest. So many people are just so salty. It's like Rian KNEW it would happen. He is the true MadLad.
     
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    i love Gareth Edwards' "wtf?" look. good cameo for him.

    anyway...

    i want Kylo Ren to not be redeemed and to go down as evil.

    if he is to be redeemed, i want him to die in the process. i was already cheated out of Harry Potter's death (i really wanted him to die in the end).
     
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