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Binge TV watching is part of the ST problem

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Xeven, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. Xeven

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    People these days watch entire seasons of good TV over days and hours rather than months or years. This is a problem for Trilogies like SW. Fans expect to be fed deep, rich story lines and the ability to consume it in a short amount of Time. Trilogies spaced over years, cannot do that. Fans have come to expect thorough background stories on characters to unfold. IMO the ST has tried to be that and a fast action movie all at once. 6 hours cannot fulfill that.

    Marvel characters are already well known. Introducing new hero’s like Rey, Finn, Poe in that short of time is harder to do now that binge watching is becoming the norm.

    I would argue Disney should do 6+ movies a year rather than less to change pace and character depth to what people expect in the computer age.
     
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    I disagree. I actually think Disney is prdoucing too much SW content right now and it "hurts" the brand. Fortunately Disney tries to slow down now. That's a good step in the right direction.

    Personally I wouldn't mind if we get a Star Wars movie only every two or even three years. Quality > quantity.

    I would hate that because SW movies wouldn't feel special anymore.
     
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    Check out what Favaru said on the directors round table.

    He basically said when watching a movie in todays world you end up looking at the watch and seeing an hour has passed and thinking I still have to sit through another hour.

    Where he said a TV show you will get to the end of 10 hours straight and be frustrated the show has ended. You want more.

    I experience the exact same thing. Some of this is because of the quality of TV now but I think is also down to shows letting you live in that world. You get to really experience it.

    Add in films really do follow the same narrow structure that I think bores everyone.

    Star Wars neefs two to three TV serirs a year. Live action.
     
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    if they want the magical $1b hit at the box office each time.. then they will need to space them out. build up the marketing/anticipation slowly each time.

    studios are knocking out shows so darn quick these days that no matter how powerful my binge watching kung fu is (oh it's powerful !) i still can't keep up with everything i'd like to watch.

    what they are doing with the Mandalorian really does cover all bases for them in this respect. they can produce shows that keep us rabid SW fans fed with tasty new canon over a stretch of many weeks during the year.. and keep a decent gap between flagship movies so that they still feel special.
     
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    This makes total sense to me. There is less time between the highs and low points of a series, so it's not as noticeable... "Oh, you didn't like where they went with episodes 3-4? Hang tight, 5 brings it all together and it's a wild ride from there."
    I understand TLJ was a disappointment to many, but hopefully once we have IX and the full picture things will seem a lot more cohesive.

    I wouldn't quite go this far, but I get what you're saying. It works for Marvel because they're all in the same timeline, roughly. You can have plenty of crossover and character depth and make everything seem relevant to each other.

    When you have the Episodic Saga wrapping, RJ's trilogy, the Benioff & Weiss films, and any other project(s) we don't even know about yet on deck all releasing around each other and all with (presumably) different timelines, the multiple films a year approach probably does hurt more than it helps, like @NinjaRen mentioned.

    Pretty weird phenomena, but I agree! I don't usually get bored in movies, but rather I get "anxious" knowing that there is only so much more time left... I wish there was time for more subtle development. I like series a bit more because I know there is plenty of content ahead.

    I hope that this does become the new norm. Everyone may not like it all, but there will surely be something for everyone. Some people may think that dilutes the brand, but I think it makes it stronger. Guess it's all how you look at it. Either way, I will never be upset with more content from the GFFA!
     
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    I think this could be one of the issues.

    I do think more content is likely the answer, not sure if movies is the way to go. As someone mentioned, a few live action series would do wonders. If there was a live action series around the ST so far, for example, the whole world building issue would be a non issue, we'd be getting it through the live action series. It would give directors the ability to focus on the main theme of the movie, while backstories and world building ect ect could be covered in the series, sparing writers/directors valuable time to setting the scene applied to the actual story. There would of course have to be some, but the ST probably would have enough for the casual fan.
     
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    This is how Marvel has worked so well. They keep them coming and by interconnecting them all so tightly, it feels like a show more than a movie.

    Avengers movies are season finales.
    Didn't like Iron Man 3? Here's GOTG to give you something else. Didn't like Winter Soldier? Here's Doctor Strange.
    Didn't care for Thor 2? Here's Black Panther.

    Bad "episodes" don't bog you down because you know something else is coming down the pike in a few months.

    I don't think this formula would inherently work for Star Wars. People like the mystery and while they often want gratification for "solving" the mysteries, when the aren't the same solution, people get testy. Star Wars fans are weird.
    The MCU has no real mysteries of depth or the greater world. You have a very solid grasp of everything and everyone in it. You understand the rules and how everyone has to play by the same rules...except Thanos. Want more of these characters? Read this entirely unrelated comic book.
    Star Wars has always been more...nebulous.

    I feel like more new Star Wars has wildly toned down the dislike for the PT. I know it has for me and I think in general it has as well.
    Because we aren't limited to just that. I don't think we need 6 movies a year but once people realize and adjust to the fact that Star Wars isn't stopping for another 2 decades after this trilogy and we will see *most* of the dislike for the ST die down and people will just have to accept that not every entry will be for them. It happens.
     
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    I had to wait three years between each of the new Planet of the Apes films. They were spaced out significantly. And the story connecting all three of them was richer and deeper than anything we've gotten out of the new Star Wars films.

    You can absolutely have a wealth of depth, world-building and rich characters despite only having a trilogy of films instead of an entire season of TV. Just because the ST does this poorly doesn't mean that it's impossible to do.
     
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    I agree, it occurred to me too. It probably affects all movies, but it's worse for SW because it's basically a family drama. We're used to complex character development in this type of story, and there's only so much 3 episodes can do.
     
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