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Boba Fett; Uncle Owen & Aunt Beru.....

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by TheFettMan, Sep 10, 2014.

  1. TheFettMan

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    Any other forum members think in the "back story" of Star Wars: A New Hope, Boba Fett kills Uncle Owen & Aunt Beru(on Darth Vader's direct orders)?
    I've seen a few other forums & Star Wars fan message boards bring this topic up.
    When you think about it, it makes sense.
    Fett could already have been close by or on Tatooine at Jabba The Hutt's palace.
    Boba Fett was also ruthless & able to murder(assassinations) for the right price.
    In the newer special editions, the "bodies" are burned & almost skeletons(bones). Regular storm troopers wouldn't have those types of weapons, as deplicted in the films. Boba Fett had flame throwers .
    Darth Vader and Fett could have a established relationship prior to the scenes in TESB. Vader even says; There are to be no disintegrations. He may have stated that point because he already knew Boba Fett did it to Owen & Beru a few years earlier.
     
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    I would actually doubt it. However, I think the rumors of:

    "Incindiary Stormtroopers" wielding flamethrowers

    is a direct nod/explanation to the scene you speak of.
     
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    first of all, I would be shocked if Vader wasn't aware of the best bounty hunter in the galaxy before we see him in ESB.

    Secondly. The current scene makes no sense. Obi-Wan talking about the precision of blast marks by Imperial Storm Troopers is absurd when we're looking at to charred and smoking skeletal corpses.

    What did they do? Shoot every inch of them?

    This is a case where retconning (or honestly, just explaining it canonically) will totally work if you show that it's Boba Fett that incinerated them. It explains why he's on Tatooine at the exact same time and it explains why Vader would make the reference specifically towards him. (especially when you consider the backstory between the Lars and Skywalker families).
     
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    Well, Boba Fett was on Tatooine. In the SE's he's at the meeting with Jabba and Solo. Does he have time to hunt down the Lars and then make the meeting? Probably not.
     
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    Interesting theory! I can't beleive I've never heard it or thought of it before. I doubt Vader would have ordered this brother to be killed by a bounty hunter. Maybe he was just looking for looking for Obi-wan, Luke, or some other jedi on Vader's dime. Fett took matters into his own hands when Owen deffended his homestead, and then fett disentigrated them. Then he just went over to Mos Eisley to hang with Jabba and continue his search.

    Side note: Boba Fett's presence on Tatooine was established well before the Special Editions. He was in Mos Eisley in the old NES Star Wars video game.
     
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    Its an interesting theory. But I prefer that it be the storm troopers that killed Owen and Beru. It sets the tone for the empire as Nazis. With the storm troopers acting as a roving death squad killing innocent civilians just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Those acts you expect from a criminal. But, when perpetrated by the government, it sets them as the clear enemy and worthy of revolting against, in the movie.
     
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    I didn't recall the presence of Boba Fett in the newer(1997) version of A New Hope. That honestly, could provide more evidence that he, in fact, did murder Owen & Beru on their homestead. Fett could have easily been working with the Storm Trooper squad dispatched by Vader. A comic book/graphic novel artwork I saw had troopers holding Uncle Owen/Aunt Beru at gun-point while they spoke directly with a holographic image of Darth Vader.
    Vader could have been so ticked over the loss of the Death Star plans & Leia he could have taken his rage out on Owen & Beru. Having Fett carry out the murders(assassinations) could have made sense. The farm & buildings being burned could have shown the aggressive nature & apathy of the Imperial Storm Troopers much like the "Zippo Raids" of US armed forces in SE Asia(1961-1973).

    Maybe if Disney or Lucasfilm makes a "stand alone" or "off-shoot" Boba Fett film, they will explain it but I highly doubt Disney or the screenwriters/producers will do anything that dark or morbid.
     
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    Occam's Razor, folks...

    The detachment of stormtroopers sent down to Tatooine to retrieve the droids had already found and destroyed the sandcrawler full of Jawas that had sold Threepio and Artoo to Owen Lars. Luke made the logical connection to what happened next, and I see no reason why it would need to be retconned any differently. The stormtroopers traced the droids to the Jawas, then traced them to the farm, and KERBLOOIE!!

    I like Boba Fett as much as the next fella, but it's way too much of a leap to suggest that the stormtroopers called in the support of a bounty hunter to take out an all but unarmed moisture farm for them. ;)
     
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    No need to recon?! Have you not seen Star Wars? Retconning is all Lucasfilm does! :p I'm fully expecting Ep. 7 to get retconned hard in a few years (when Ep. 8 comes out)
     
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    But but but....
    How can you explain the corpses burned to skeletons as noted in the special editions?
    It's "possible" the storm trooper detachment packed a "flame thrower" or incinerator weapon but BF was already on Tatooine(he's in the Jabba scene, background). Fett HAS flame weapons. He also could have zipped straight to the farm on Vader's or a Imperial Cruiser's data. To wax 2 farmers he didn't know & get a quick check doesn't seem to be a stretch.
    If you watch closely, C3PO carrys a dead Jawa to a burn pile so I don't think the Sand Crawler was filled with scorched dead Jawas or that they were burned up like Aunt Beru & Uncle Owen.
    I'd add that even with high tech armor & A/C or hydration systems I doubt a storm trooper detail would lug a flame thrower or gas tank around in 120 degree heat. ;)
    For them to pack a weapon they MIGHT use seems highly unlikely.
     
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    Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise!
     
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    Sure, just ask the Ewoks on Endor in 3 ABY. ;)
     
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    Because if the OT said it it must be gospel.

    Right Kibs?

    I truly can't wait to see your opinion on the 7 when it comes out. I bet I already know.
     
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    They are firing super heated plasma into a residence. We saw what happened to Greivous when he got hit with a blaster. Is likely the place burned in the attack. Or maybe Beru just left a lit cigarette in the kitchen when she went to answer the door for the stromtroopers. It was the 70's. People did that.
     
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    Maybe it was the highly flammable blue milk!

    :)
     
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    Well, sure! I trust the wise Ben Kenobi to know a thing or two about stormtroopers.

    My point was that there were already stormtroopers down there wrecking stuff, they found the sandcrawler and that must have "led them back...home!" like Luke said.

    Hey I am pretty optimistic about these movies - they can't be as bad as the Prequels. And they are being written by actual Star Wars fans that like grew up with the Original Trilogy, and extremely talented writers at that. I bet J.J. Abrams will do a super awesome job.

    (Probably not a perfect job though. I dream of a mostly good Sequel Trilogy that has few enough bad things about it that an Adywan-style edit can turn it into a perfect Star Wars movie capable of being compared to the Original Trilogy)
     
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    Oh? Because Kenobi was in exile for nearly 20 years. In fact, he should only know about the abilities of Clone Troopers, not Storm Troopers.

    Unless you'd like to continue ignoring anything the PT has to say for the canon.
     
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    I'm sure Obi-wan has had a few adventures involving the Empire during his exile.
     
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    Yes, I would! The fact is, the Prequels were just made by different people. People who didn't understand (or care about) the subtle nuances of the Original Trilogy, the intentions of the original artists. John Mollo, Ralph McQuarrie, and Colin Cantwell are just a few (my favourite <3) of the many extremely important artists who made Star Wars good. You can easily see this cause the only good parts of the Prequels was the music and sound design - done by John Williams and Ben Burtt, the artists on the Original Trilogy. Additionally, Return of the Jedi had a noticeable degradation in the internal consistancy of its costuming, and (after I looked it up) it just so happened that costumer John Mollo only worked on Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back!

    I think it is only fair that you consider only the original work made by the original people, when discussing the artistic intentions of those people.
     
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    What always bugs me is that Fett was like the epitome of independent badassery and then Lucas decided to make him the lackey of a crime lord on a distant planet. In ROTJ I kind of thought Fett stayed on because the Hutt had a mission or two for him, but with the addition in ANH:SE... shame, but an early example of Lucas disregarding his own creation.
     
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