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Boba Fett; Uncle Owen & Aunt Beru.....

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by TheFettMan, Sep 10, 2014.

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    Lucas disregarded his own creation when he gave Boba Fett's death the Mack Sennett treatment in ROTJ. And IMHO he's never quite known what to do with the character since then.

    I really hope the ST creators leave the poor bastard dead in the gut of that Sarlacc and don't try to come up with some Pythonesque "I'm not QUITE dead..." schtick for him.
     
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    I actually always liked that they kind of subverted the trope and let him go out by accident. It said something about the quirks of fate and I could appreciate that, even though I was a massive fan of the Fett before 1997.
     
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    I'm a fan of Fett escaping the Sarlacc, however, I'm not a fan of the idea of an eighty year old Fett showing up in the ST. BUT I wouldn't mind some new canon stuff inbetween(comics, novels, games etc.) Too much Fett is a bad thing. Sprinkle him in here and there maybe. I guess its too late now. I really didn't like them forcing an angsty preteen Fett on us in TCW.
     
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    Or how about that frowning annoyance on Kamino? Sigh. As if having him flirt with Jabba's band wasn't enough Lucas managed to give us a young Boba. Call it fan service (moar Boba Fett!!!), I felt it was intensely unappropriate to drag him into the prequels, as if the galaxy wasn't small enough already (don't get me started on Chewbacca).

    Once upon a time, Boba Fett was the coolest character I knew. I loved the mystery, the few snarled lines of cold blooded menace, the armor and the helmet. Less was more, back in the day. Now it's just more is more.

    I hope Episode VII goes back to give us tantalizing glimpses, to give the iimpression of a rich setting. Expand the galaxy.
     
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    Y'know, I actually felt like Boba Fett could have worked in the prequels if Lucas hadn't given him an origin story. There was no reason he ever had to be anything more than this infamous bounty hunter who, it seemed, had always been there and who just seemed to know how and where to turn up for the really big bounties.

    We didn't even need confirmation that he was a human underneath that armor. That would have given a perfect out as to why he was there in the prequel era and still plying his trade in the OT era. (And hell, let's say he was a human who was 30 during the PT, and 50 during the OT... like nobody's ever heard of a grizzled old special forces vet who is still plenty dangerous when he's middle-aged?)

    The "Baby Boba" thing was just a terrible idea, and completely unnecessary at that. (And yeah, IMHO the angsty tween thing they did with him in the Clone Wars cartoons pushed the whole thing even deeper into the heard of Slow-Sad-Headshakesville.)
     
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    Yeah, an unrevealed Boba Fett - as mysterious as he was in Empire and Jedi - I wouldn't mind that as much. Could even be cool. I guess I'm glad I haven't seen the Clone Wars episodes where he is featured.
     
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    Personally, I still believe in the stormtroopers killing the two of them. As is stated in the movie, the stormtroopers were supposedly making an attempt to hide their actions. Or to quote the OT in referring to Tusken Raiders attacking the Jawas:

    Obi-Wan: "They didn't. But we are meant to think they did. These tracks are side by side. Sandpeople always ride single file to hide their numbers."
    Luke: "These are the same Jawas that sold us Artoo and Threepio."
    Obi-Wan: "And these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise."


    So I wouldn't be surprised if something similar was done in order to hide the fact that the Empire was behind it. Therefore they could've set a few fires and burned the corpses, to try to remove any possible evidence of Imperial presence and possibly frame the Tusken Raiders. Not sure if burning people was a Tusken Raider thing though, but I guess they could improvise.
     
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    That is actually a VERY good point. I'd actually never considered the fact that they might have continued to try to cover their tracks at the Lars farm the way they did with the sandcrawler attack.
     
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    Shocking news!
    (well not that shocking since Star Wars came out in 1977, ;) ) .....
    I read over a few posts on Wookiepedia. One explained how Imperial troops obtained the dewbacks, the huge lizard like creatures on Tatooine.
    The article stated the stormtroopers assigned to the "dewback cavalry" also used FLAMETHROWERS!
    Soooo....
    Fett may NOT have been at the moisture farm afterall. Wow!

    SPOILER:
    One of the Ep 7 set pics is of the big lizard type creature but it looks more like a alligator than a big dewback.

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    Interesting article I found speculates that Boba Fett was behind the attack on Luke's home in Episode IV... not sure it would change anything, and not sure anyone has ever chimed in on this in an official capacity... but... opinions?
     
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    I say it's possible but as stated above the storm troopers were looking for the Droid s if they knew where they went why would they hire the best bounty hunter to kill a couple of moisture farmers i would think a squad of storm troopers is more than a match for Owen and Beru Lars. If they couldn't get it done i could see them hiring Boba but then there would have been evidence of a struggle from fighting the storm troopers. Also isn't there some storm troopers who carry flame throwers. Just because they didn't show it doesn't mean it wasn't there.
     
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    The "new special edited version" of Episode IV has Han meeting Jabba in the hanger... and Fett is there...

    It is possible (though suspect and highly improbable) that he could have been pursuing a bounty on the droids

    Devil's Advocate there.. I ain't buying the whole thing... I just came across it
     
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    The scene of the remains of Owen and Beru was never changed across all the different releases of A New Hope. They were always smoking skeletal remains.

    As others have said it is definitely stromtroopers that did it. The stromtroopers were just going from one clue to the next. First finding the escape pod. Following the droids tracks to the point where they see both droids were intercepted by the Jawa's (tracks would have shown this). Then the stormies just find the sandcrawler. They find it, get the info out of the Jawa's as to whom they have sold droids the last couple of days. They then kill the Jawa's (to shut them up) and try to pin it on Tuskens to cover-up that they were there and to probably not tip off anyone else that might find the dead jawa's.

    I think the movie pretty much explains it...
    Obi Wan was talking about the precise hits that the stormtroopers used to take out the sand crawler. When he says that line he grabs Luke and turns him to show the damage done to the sandcrawler.

    Simply put, just because we never see the stormies use a flame thrower doesn't mean they never had one. If you are really desperate for an in movie answer, then we never saw a stormtrooper fire this weapon, could it possibly be an incendiary weapon?:

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    I would bet that Vader had little knowledge of what was going on down on the planet. He put his commander in charge with the line "see to it personally". He was more worried about the results rather than details. So I would bet that he never knew anything of the deaths of Own and Beru...
     
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    If anything... not knowing there was a child there... he would have ordered the stormtroopers to level the place just to remove the ties to his "good" humanity... this was the bastard child of the man who could not save his mother... the weak child who sat with his father and girlfriend while his mother was being tortured... if they had not been weak... if they had not given up the search... mother would not have died... there would be no pain...

    Yeah, even if the droids were not there (and he had no idea WHO the droids were) he would have leveled the place...
     
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    I think Cliegg was married when Owen was born, but, could be wrong.

    I just don't see Vader being in the details of the search for the droids. If Vader was really worried about tying up loose ends, he would have had the Lars family wiped out a long time ago.
     
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    I so love the idea that that could be an incendiary weapon. Sadly the Wookieepedia classifies it simply as a light repeating blaster.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T-21_light_repeating_blaster

    Not sure if that could be seen as a definitive description or not. Also, I'm very tempted to say we saw it in action during the escape from Tatooine... however the action happens so fast, I can't be sure if the one holding that weapon is firing it. Oddly he seems to be running toward the Falcon, not firing, before being shot down.



    (I know that's some "revisited" thing, but I'm not sure if the person made any visual edits and I'm having trouble finding other clips of this scene)
     
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    Let's see... Sith Lord... master of the Force... and a planet where he was enslaved... where his freakin mother died... where he begin his final descent into Grand Sith Terminal with no ramps departing...

    Dude, I trolled FaceBook the other day out of curiosity to see if I could find my ex... you don't think Vader would notice THIS?!?!?!

    I really dodged a bullet on this one... the years were not kind to her, she resembles a bottom heavy pear
     
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    Actually, the more I think about it, the less it seems like it was necessarily even a flamethrower that the stormtroopers used.

    At the beginning of the pan across the farm that ends on the bodies of Owen and Beru, a portion of the roof of the garage appears to be blown out, as though by explosive force. There is a lot of charring and blast damage to the stone dome/entryway as well. It seems more like the stormtroopers hit the farm with heavy lasers and probably tossed some grenades into the dwelling for good measure. That could easily have started the whole place on fire - probably a whole lot more intensely than what we see onscreen, since Luke seems to have gotten there awhile after the attack.
     
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