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Bold Predictions For Episode VIII and IX

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by BB-Rey, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. BB-Rey

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    Bold predictions for Episode VII and IX.

    1. Supreme Leader Snoke is Darth Plagueis. I've been going on about this for over two years and feel he's the best way to bring the story full circle.

    2. The First Order joins up with the Resistance and limited Jedi, upon the un-covering the truth of the origins of the Clone Army at the hands of Snoke/Plagueis by Finn. Which subsequently leads the Knights of Ren (Snoke's Order) to join up with Guavian Death Gang and Kanjiklub. It's like poetry, it rhymes. The Naboo once joined up with the Gungans. As did the Rebel Alliance with the Ewoks. Now it's on a much larger scale.

    3. Finn meets his father and sister. Lando and rumored Episode VIII cast member, Gugu Mbatha-Raw. It gives Finn even more to fight for as well as to show the First Order Stormtroopers aren't your typical Stormtrooper, they each have a family somewhere out in the galaxy.

    4. General Hux and Captain Phasma both die in Episode VIII.

    5. Snoke is living off of midi-chlorian manipulation to feed his wounds and will try to take control of Rey's body, which leads Kylo Ren to being killed by him. It's a twist on Vader killing Sidious, except this time it's the Master killing the Apprentice.

    6. Benicio Del Toro plays a Knight of Ren. Noteworthy, the one who killed Luke's wife and Rey's mother.
     
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    Don't understand what you mean by the FO teams up with the resistance... Do you mean the FO and the resistance team up with other groups?
     
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    They end up working together to defeat the Knights of Ren. As well as potentially Guavian and Kanjiklub.
     
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    WOW! That would be weird! Would definitely be an interesting plot twist... I feel like the KOR or Guavian or Kanjiklub would need to have had a greater impact in VII for an alliance between the FO and the resistance to take place.

    I like the idea of Benecio Del Toro being a secret apprentice to Snoke or Kylo Ren's babysitter as I put it.
     
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    It ties into their connection to Snoke and his needing them for his bidding as the First Order turns against him. Part of it is fear and the Knights of Ren aren't big enough to fight the First Order, Resistance, and remaining Jedi alone. It also finally is a solution to ending the conflict that was started with the Clone War. As Sidious said if the Jedi aren't destroyed "It will be civil war with no end". How do you end the war? Uncovering the truth of how it began.

    Haha. Interesting way of looking at it.
     
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    ...everybody dies .
     
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    Pretty much and the people you think are bad, end up being the heroes. It's an unexpected twist.
     
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    I want to see the Resistance be bigger in VIII with some capital ships
     
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    It's possible they will. It depends I think on how big they are with the New Republic being destroyed.
     
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    These are indeed bold.
    About no. 1.: Im 99,9% that he is Plagueis. I've read a leaked synopsis around a half year before TFA, which was 80% on the spot about the actual movie, and it stated Snoke was the master of Sidious, so Plagueis.
     
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    Not to mention the uncanny similarities between Snoke's Thems and Palpatine's Teachings when Plagueis is mentioned. Both run at 1:13 in length.
     
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    Yup, and also Kylo said ,,the supreme leader is wise", like Darth Plagueis the wise. This isnt even subtle, they literally telling us right in the face.
     
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    1 - Rey gets trained by Luke. Her potential is illimited.
    2 - Kylo Ren get trained by Snoke. He wants to avenge himself badly.
    3 - Leia will try to get her son back and be killed by Snoke.
    4 - Finn will become a ground general for the resistance replacing Leia. He will have some bionic parts in his body which make him a powerful warrior ( not FS yet, maybe when Rey will have the power to make other Force sensitive but not in Ep VIII ).
    5 - Hux will reorganize his troops.
    6 - Luke and Rey will find secrets in the first jedi temple.
    7 - Poe Dameron will be the air general of the resistance.
    8 - Chewie will search for Kylo Ren to avenge Solo.
    9 - Kylo Ren will kill Snoke and Hux will hunt him.
    10 - Rey will search for her parents but wont find many things yet.
    11 - Ren and Rey will match up at the end of the movie.
     
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    Reports last month said Gugu is out. The Wrap's Jeff Snider said people jumped the gun on that and that Bel Powley was now in the lead for the role (and then later it was rumored she was now out of the running as well). So, being that race was not part of the design of that role, it would seem unlikely that she is Finn's sister or Lando's daughter.

    http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/01/bel-powley-up-for-role-in-star-wars-episode-viii.html
     
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    This trilogy is there to cut the ties not reinforce them. Carlissian is old as ****, Disney will give the old crew a worthy exit and work on their own universe not Lucas' one.
     
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    Star Wars was born of Lucas.

    The Prequels and Original Trilogy are permanently canon.

    Even if Disney finds exit paths for all the Prequel/Original Trilogy characters and references, anything Disney makes within this current trilogy will still be relative to the foundation of this story and all the events and characters who brought us to this point in the Star Wars timeline.

    Those ties are inseverable.

    Interestingly enough, though, the current Star Wars films are all set within one galaxy. But, there are billions of galaxy in the universe.

    So, if Disney ever pursues a "Sequel-Sequel Trilogy" (i.e films after Episode IX), they could then have an opportunity to do something utterly new set in another galaxy even further away, breaking free of Lucas' relativity altogether.

    It could be interesting, but then it might no longer be recognizable as Star Wars.

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    It can be canon and want to break with the past. I don't see where is the problem. As a story teller war machine, having this story too tied with old characters is not a good idea. It's not Disney's fault if Hamill and co are 65, you don't build on an old crew. They will offer them a smart exit and writing for the future. They even destroyed the senate to make things on their own for the future. Solo dies in VII, Leia and Luke will follow leaving them a whole blank universe to create.

    They told Lucas they weren't interested on his ideas. It's because they already have a new universe. You don't put 4 billions on a company with a blind view of the future.

    But they are story tellers and at the end of Ep IX, you will want to see more Rey not more Luke.
     
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    Lucas confirmed Disney went with their own ideas for The Force Awakens.

    He also confirmed his ideas were intended to be more original than what ultimately manifested in The Force Awakens.

    The past in the Star Wars universe is nothing too terrible for anyone to want to rush away from or deny. That past will certainly inform any future Star Wars films. Above all, Star Wars is Star Wars because of Star Wars.

    We can have old and new coexisting without desiring or requiring any renouncing of the past.

    Established characters should never be removed simply to make way for new ones. They can coexist and complement each other, find unique roles and respective niches, and each bear their respective influence upon the larger saga. There's room enough for everyone here.

    Luke Skywalker has insight and experiences no other Jedi would have had up to now, and I hope we get to learn about that.

    I am all for Rey and the new crew, and new stories, but I grow concerned when people speak so freely of getting rid of the old in favor of the new, especially as The Force Awakens echoes so much of the familiar.

    Whatever moves the story forward in the best way possible should be the strategy, I think, irrespective of old and new characters.

    I'm excited for the future and look forward to see where they take Star Wars. It is a big galaxy!

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    Interesting. Take it with a grain of salt but, I saw Disney's Wikipedia list Gugu as part of the cast. Nevertheless, if this is the case then Finn probably has no sister or isn't Lando's daughter. That said Disney's Wikipedia is usually right on these types of things.
     
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    Yeah, it doesn't look like DIsney Wikia has updated her page. The citation on Gugu being in Star Wars is a Collider report from October. But the wrap report that she was out was just in early January.

    Disney Wikia is a fan run page though. So anything there should definitely be taken with a grain of salt.
     
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