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Breaking traditions in Star Wars: Things that happen in every film except one

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by High General Kenobi, Dec 1, 2020.

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    Hello!

    I've recently started a blog on fandom and obviously Star Wars will be a frequent topic. For my first feature on the franchise I made a series called BREAKING TRADITIONS.

    As the title implies, it's about all those little things that Star Wars films usually have but which have been left behind in one (sometimes two) of them. For instance: every film but Return of the Jedi features characters riding animals.

    For fans such as yourselves, probably not much about it is new, but I still think it's an interesting topic and you might find something interesting that you knew about but never quite realized. Also, if you like the content, I'd be thankful if you check the blog. More like this will be coming regularly, but I still have no readers, having just started.

    If you remember another tradition which has been broken in one of the films, don't hesitate to comment so that I can add it! You'll be credited for the find.

    Click on the images bellow to read the full lists:


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    THE SEQUEL TRILOGY will be published tomorrow.
     
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    PART III is out now. Click on the image below:

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    The final part, on THE ANTHOLOGY films, is finished but will be published on monday since I have another article to post this week.
     
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    Very cool. I hadn't noticed several of these things before. One thing though that I think you missed about the sequel trilogy (since you do mention certain things that are unique to it as a whole, not just a single film): all films in the ST end in what I call a coda (or epilogue), a scene after the typical "character group shot" tableau that ends just about any SW movie. In VII, it's Rey on Ahch-To; in VIII, it's the kids on Canto Bight, in IX, it's Rey visiting the Lars homestead. That's certainly a break from tradition - established no doubt to give TFA a cliffhanger ending and feature Luke, even though his main story contribution wouldn't come until TLJ.

    And on the subject of only ONE film breaking tradition, it would be fair to say that TLJ is the only film whose last scene does not include anyone from the film's (or trilogy's) main cast.

    TPM has the full group in celebration.
    AOTC has Anakin, Padmé at their wedding.
    ROTS has Owen and Beru (not main cast) holding baby Luke (technically not main cast either here of course), but Obi-Wan is in the scene, if not the final shot.
    ANH has the full group in celebration.
    TESB has Luke, Leia and the droids looking into space.
    ROTJ has the full group in celebration.
    TFA has Rey and Luke first meeting.
    TROS has Rey and BB-8 looking into the sunset.
    ...
    TLJ has no main characters whatsoever in its epilogue.
     
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    I would argue that TLJ end scene has the concept and legend of Luke very much at the center, his role in galaxy's social conscience. While Hamill weren't in the shot, Luke very much were... he even got an action figure stand-in! ;)
     
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    Thanks! That one was useful and now features on the list. You can check it. Also, thanks for your feedback on the blog Feature.

    I get your point on the coda one, but I'm having trouble giving the idea a concrete shape. Maybe I'll add it later on.


    I agree with it being very much about Luke, but since he's not in the shot, it counts as a difference. I added it to the list, but in my commentary I did say something very similar to what you point out.
     
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    And here's the final part. Check it out and comment if you think there's something to add.

    And there is much more content comming, both on Star Wars and on other fandoms.

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    I think TLJ fits in if you consider the ending scene on the Falcon and the "Broom Boy" scene an epilogue. That's how I rationalize it anyways.
     
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    Interesting reads! There were some things I hadn’t realized myself in there!
     
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    SOLO is the only SW movie that does not have the opening scene in space.

    And I called it right here in the betting thread !!!
     
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    SOLO is also the only SW film without a live action Jedi or Sith
     
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    Palps voice is in 7.
    He's not entirely absent.

    Cheers,
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    Is it? I'm not convinced!
     
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    Ok
     
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    Maul isn't a Jedi or Sith.
     
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    It's meaningless distinction, and not one the movies make anyway.
     
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    BTW, well done @High General Kenobi.
    That takes a lot of analysis work to put together, and it's not only put together, but put together intuitively and cleanly.

    Very well curated and presented.

    Cheers,
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    maul is also not live action as I specified
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 6, 2021, Original Post Date: Mar 6, 2021 ---
    Key distinctions here ~~~~ LIVE ACTION (holos don’t count)~~~~~ jedi OR sith.....not Jedi AND sith
     
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    Ah okay... see I would say holograms DO count as 'live action'. Live action just means something is filmed using real people and not animation or CGI characters, of which Ray Park is neither!

    But I suppose you could say Solo is the only Star Wars film to show us a Jedi and/or Sith as a hologram only.

    I'd aslo still maintain that Maul IS a Sith, at least as far as movie canon and a movie audience is concerned. He was a Sith in TPM when we last saw him, so there's no reason to think he isn't when he shows up alive and well(ish) again in Solo. The movies don't really go into what defines a Sith, other than a user if the dark side of the Force.
     
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    Whenever this comes up, I feel like I'm listening to someone describe how evil wizards aren't all Slitherin house.

    Cheers,
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