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Cara Dune The Mandalorian Action Figures Canceled By Hasbro

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by SWNN Probe, Feb 14, 2021.

  1. SWNN Probe

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    According to multiple reports, pre-orders of Hasbro Cara Dune action figures are being canceled by the toy manufacturer.





    The Wrap reports that Hasbro, producer of The Mandalorian Black Series and The Vintage Collection lines, is canceling preorders of Cara Dune action figures scheduled to ship later this summer. This comes in the wake of Cara Dune actress Gina Carano's firing over controversial remarks she made on social media. The cancelations were first reported in a tweet from a customer on Twitter:



    https://twitter.com/TheComixKid/status/1360358717695303683



    The notice reads:



    The Wrap had reached out to Hasbro for comment, without any reply as of this writing.



    The Cara Dune figures being canceled are reissues of previously produced figures from both the Black Series 6' line of action figures and the 3.75' The Vintage Collection. Both figures ran in late 2019/early 2020 but were being reissued due to a lot of people missing out on the original runs of any and all The Mandalorian merchandise.



    This does not affect the upcoming Retro Collection Cara Dune, which will be produced in the classic Kenner Star Wars style. According to original reporting by Star Wars collecting site Yakface.com, this particular figure will still ship with the rest of The Mandalorian themed assortment later this fall.



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    Yakface is also just reporting today on Twitter that some lucky folks with pre-orders may get theirs, as GameStop did receive some The Vintage Collection Cara Due figures on February 11:



    https://twitter.com/yak_face/status/1361028818849452032



    As is the case with any controversy, prices on the existing Cara Dune Hasbro action figures have gone up since Gina Carano was let go. The aftermarket was already high on The Mandalorian action figures, so this will make it more difficult for collectors to complete their collections, at least in the near-term.



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    Got it. Great. Let’s move on.
     
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    I actually think there's an interesting industry and cultural topic here.
    Disney, more than quite possibly any other studio or corporation, has a long history of dropping people who become potentially hazardous socio-economic investments. It's not like Disney has always done the right thing when it drops someone. For example, in 1963, Disney (actually, Walt Disney himself) fired actor Tommy Kirk for having a relationship with another boy. Now, there is absolutely the problem that the person he was having a relationship with was 15 and he was 22 (at least - allegedly - details are foggy), but that's not actually what Disney was frustrated with. Disney fired him because he was homosexual and he was being too open about it.

    Point is, Disney was once coined as "the most conservative studio in town", whereas now they're often seen as one of the more "liberal studios in town".
    The constant here is that Disney has always moved with the cultural zeitgeist. If what someone does is social taboo in a contentious way - seen as immoral from an investment portfolio position of tabloid news, then they are likely to get dropped.

    The real interesting point here is Rogue One, Mandalorian, and Rise of Skywalker all show Disney fully enriching their toolbox with digital character and actor replacement (using a stand-in which then gets replaced by a digital version).
    Secondly, Disney regularly edits older movies to scrub them of scenes or sequences they now see as potential backdraft explosions waiting to happen (even if to us they seem completely benign and odd conclusions).

    Mix these two impulses together and what you get is the very easy possibility that after firing an actor for such tabloid reasons, Disney may very well start hiring actors to reshoot all of the previous actor's parts and then go in and rotoscope and digitally replace them through everything in Disney+ and reissues of discs from that point forward so that the product isn't retroactively "damaged" by the tabloid scandal.

    And I think that is a very interesting situation. We could very easily be in a world soon where all of Kevin Spacey's roles for a given studio are retroactively digitally replaced by Bryan Cranston (or whomever).

    Disney hasn't stated that they will do this with Mandalorian, but I think it's a situation that dangles very precariously on the knife's edge of occurring at some point soon - whether in Mandalorian or some other Disney show or film.

    The advent of such an action will undoubtedly create a seismic shock through the acting industry, and it will be interesting to see social rapport and public expression respond to such an action once it takes place.

    Cheers,
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    I think whoever owns the original run of a Cara DOOM figure is gonna make a pretty penny on eBay in the near future, or it might just be worthless!:D

    seriously though, its unfortunate that Cara represented allot of female fans... its very unfortunate... I would imagine that there would be allot of Cara Cosplay.
     
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    It's just a bit of a shame that there seems no possibility to differ between the film character and the actress in real life. Because the character was quite an enrichment. Not as extreme skinny as a lot of the heroines in the the film industry.
    My daughter liked the film character. A strong and fearless woman, doing the right thing.
     
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    I think at some level, everyone is incapable of separating the character from the actor, except for perhaps the extremely sociopathic neurologies.

    Like most things involving humans, it's a matter of degree more than binary.

    For example, if there were an actor who played in a movie about family unity and helping the community, and then
    it was discovered that the actor was a serial killer who had been killing families one after the other for the past decade, always starting with the children while the parents were forced to watch
    ....you might find it a bit hard to watch the visual and audible identity of their image and tone without somehow being reminded of their extremely grotesque actions.

    My wife and I have a philosophical discussion that's similar to this topic which we disagree on in terms of whether it matters to each of us or not.
    I've come to call it the, "High School Dance Dilemma" (it may have a real name in philosophy, but this is what I call it).

    The framing goes like this:
    When you were in High School, you went to the prom.
    You danced with someone and had a great evening - one of the best of your High School days.
    Every time you look back on that moment, you have good emotions.
    Twenty years later, while talking to someone from your past, you learn that the person you danced with actually hated your guts and only danced with you, complimented you, and had a great time with you because they had a bet to win that they couldn't survive around you and have a good time since they hated you so much.

    The philosophical dilemma:
    Does learning of that new information ruin the memory of that night, or does that night remain independently good because at that time it was good and that's what you have in memory?

    For me, no. I would be fine. The moment itself was good, regardless of what moments thereafter come about.
    For my wife, yes. She would be impacted. The goodness and badness of such moments are adjustable indefinitely for her.
    BUT. That's because the set up isn't good enough for me to relate to. I don't care about what people think about me. That will never affect my appreciation of a moment.

    However...
    If I work with someone and have a great time with them, and later I find out that they are a jerk to their spouse who later divorced them, well...no big deal.
    If, however, I find out that they were
    dealing in inappropriate under-age exchanges
    , I wouldn't be able to think fondly of our work exchanges.

    The character I knew them to be would be incapable of being separated from the person I now know lived behind the character I was presented with.

    Now, those are pretty extreme things, so let's dial this back.
    Would I be OK with finding out that a pleasant work colleague believed all people of a particular genetic origin were inferior?
    Probably not. That would pretty well alter my ability to see their face and hear their voice without thinking about that rather extreme view of theirs which so fundamentally disagrees with my understanding of a progressive society and my general philosophical acceptance of humanitarianism.

    To swing it back to make the point about how it's really a matter of degree, more than a matter of "yes or no"...

    If Adolf Hitler were The Tramp (in reality played by Charlie Chaplin) before wiping out millions of people, would you be able to laugh at his films?
    If it suddenly came out that Diana Ross wouldn't work with people who drank Pepsi, would you be able to groove to her music?

    Is it, "his films", or "the films"? Is it, "her music", or "the music"? How personalized are things in your memory?

    Most likely, almost everyone would struggle with the first of these two, while almost no one would be bothered by the second.

    That's where this lies for me.
    Some people won't be able to see the character separate from the actor because of the nature and degree of the issue and how deeply it matters to them.

    At a certain point, no one is capable of separating the face and voice of a person from the character, and yet at another point, almost everyone is capable of doing so. What matters is how deeply affected you are.

    Case in point, I had the exact opposite situation.
    Robin Williams played in Insomnia in such a disturbing manner that I really couldn't see him, even in interviews, without immediately being involuntarily reminded of his character's moments in the film. It faded away eventually, but it took a while.

    And with the same individual, I had the exact kind of situation people are having with Gina Carano.
    When he committed suicide, when the information wasn't quite right about what had happened, I could not watch his films. As a person who has struggled with depression throughout my life and looked to Williams for that smile through sadness, that love through pain, that hope through darkness since I was very young - it was simply too painful to be reminded that he gave up - he gave in, he couldn't make it through the darkness eventually.

    But then when his wife came out with the rest of the information about his medical neurological condition and what he was going through - the absolute terror of it all, the extreme nightmare of it...daily, it radically changed the impression. Now I was seeing a man who was needing euthanasia, and took matters into his hands before he could no longer do that and become even more trapped in his mental and physical terror than he was, and before he could weigh his family down dramatically for the next two to eight years or so until his excruciating, and painfully slow, death.

    Suddenly, I was sad for an entirely different reason. I was, like so many of Williams' characters, sad because of a beauty.
    And from then on, I was suddenly able to watch his films again without being so deeply affected, but instead uplifted - each was as to watch and remember him over and over - his success over depression, his constant will and determination to make people smile, to be a positive force while carrying a heavy load.

    I don't think it's a simple matter.
    I think that when someone says that they can separate a character from an actor, the issue at hand is quite simply not personally affecting enough for them and so it's incredibly easy to do so.

    The whole Michael Jackson bit is probably where the line is the most muddled in the public opinion.

    Cheers,
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    It's not always a stagnant line either. Sometimes things that hit hard at first fade with time, and other times something that didn't affect you when the new information first came out affects you later on.

    But we're digressing.
     
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    I understand, that it is all about how we recognize everything around us through our personal "filter" systems.
    It's always kind of a dilemma. To use a simplified, even "lifeless" example: If I see a picture of a simple wooden desk in neutral environment like a white room, it will be just tat for me, a wooden desk.
    A picture of the same desk arranged in front of a huge film set with acors and creatures, maybe within a Cantina, with Han abd Greedo sitting opposite to each other... that's a completely different thing to look at and talk about it.
    Therefore it's a matter of context. I could could talk quite easily about the character Dune because I haven't seen all the stuff in Social Media. So for me, it could be.. just Dune, the Rebel from Alderaan. If I would go through all the postings of the actress.. it's not difficult to assume that I would have posted sthg different above :)
     
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    She's a great character and has had a presence in the show for 2 seasons despite only being in a few episodes and that's because she's badass and close friends with Din. Now she's going to likely get killed or written off as doing something offscreen but at least the character can continue in some form in comics or games yet she's going to be forgotten about and tossed aside in history with not even merchandise going on.

    I'm not into collecting anymore but if I was, I'd want her figure to be part of my The Mandalorian merch!
     
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    So does this mean the character Cara Dune is getting scrapped? I just think this whole thing has been quite insane though.
     
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    yes it will be, for the time being anyway
     
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