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SPECULATION Chewbacca & Kylo Ren

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Books & Comics + Legends' started by 77th, Jan 10, 2016.

  1. 77th

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    Just found this WebStrip Comic by Mr. Tyson Murphy.

    It's a nice Epilogue for "The Force Awakens"

    [​IMG]
     
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    This is brilliant (and insanely sad).

    It got me thinking a bit because we miss this in TFA due to the focus on Han and Kylo. There must be backstory as Chewbacca, like the others, would have seen Ben grow up and turn evil. While we anticipate upcoming interactions between Kylo/Leia and Kylo/Luke, it isn't hard to see Chewbacca end up in some sort of scenario with Ren as well in future installments.
     
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    I bet we will get. Anew YOUNGER Wookoe in VIII in the form of Chewie's son. The sonstrajned together st Sthe Academy and Kylo killed Chewie's son snd chewie is seeing Kylo for the first time since the incident on The Skb .
     
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    One of the main reasons of why I don't want Kylo Ren to be redeemed is because of both Leia and Chewie. Here are two people who greatly loved Han Solo and Kylo Ren killed him. For me, this was the turning point in which any hope of their being any sense in Ben being redeemed was lost. I mean, how do Leia and Chewie happily take Ben back and pretend that nothing happened?
    Leia-''Oh hi my son! It's true that you killed your dad but I'm just so happy that you returned to the light and came back to us!''
    Chewie-''Arrrrgg Woorrf worrrf growl ruuuf!'' (Ben I love you kiddo.)
    Heck, what would Luke say to him when he saw him? ''Oh hi Ben! It's good to have you back with us my nephew! It's true that you joined old Snork head and killed all my students and killed my brother in law but that's all in the past cause it's really good to have you back. Want to help me rebuild the Jedi?''
    It would really make no sense for Kylo Ren to survive the saga and turn good after killing Han cause if everyone just welcomes him back with open arms and hugs and kisses then Solo's death would have been in vain and I really don't want this to turn into another case of ''I'm sorry mom but the devil (in this case Snoke) made me do it.
     
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    some other opinions:
    if Ben dies in the Dark, it means Han, Leia, Luke, and Chewie all failed.
    it also means they have to suffer with that outcome. as if they haven't already suffered enough.
    personally, that's not really what i want from Star Wars.

    Luke had no problem saving Vader even after he murdered, tortured, and terrorized his friends.
    and good parents don't give up on their children.
    Ben can be saved. there's still hope.
     
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    True but you must not forget that Luke almost did kill Vader when he threatened to turn his sister. Vader had murdered many people but none of them were people extremely close to Luke like Han was. Luke lost it when Vader threatened Leia because this was not just anybody but this was family and I'm quite sure that if dorky old Sheev had not been taunting him at that moment, Luke might have killed Vader then and there. Now let's think about what Kylo Ren has done. Vader hunted down the Jedi whom Luke knew nothing about but Ben killed Luke's students. We have all seen the relationship that Jedi Masters form with their padawans so we can easily say that Ben killed Luke's family. Then he went on to kill Han just for the stupid fact that he wants to be a bad guy! No matter what evils Vader had done, nether Luke nor Leia had to feel responsible cause he was somebody they didn't even know but Ben on the other hand is just a dork that WANTS to be evil. We all saw how Anakin's life was really messed up in many areas and this made it easy for Palpatine to seduce him but Ben had a darn good life and an incredible family to be by his side which makes his choice of wanting to be evil seem even dumber. For Kylo Ren's story to make sense they would have to make him have a very good reason to want to turn to the Dark Side but this in turn would make the OT characters look even more loser than what TFA has already done to them.
    I mean, what could justify what Kylo did? That he didn't want to be a Jedi when he was little? That he got angry that Leia sent him to Luke's school? That Luke had a pupil that he treated better than him? All this pales in comparison to what Anakin went threw because Kylo Ren had everything that Anakin didn't have. That in turn makes him a spoiled brat that just throws temper tantrums when things don't go his way and this doesn't justify him killing Luke's students or his own father.
    I respect your opinion greatly my friend as we all have our views but I for one don't want Kylo to be redeemed and not only for the reasons I give above but also for the fact that TFA was saddly a simple copy/paste of ANH and this for me was a real bummer. If episode 8 is just going to clone TESB and episode 9 is just going to be a lame clone of ROTJ then what was the point of Disney choosing to continue the saga instead of just rebooting it? Don't you think that Kylo Ren's story already mirrors Vader's tale to a point of it being an exact copy? Is Disney so unoriginal that I'm going to have to see Rey train and fight Kylo just to loose to him in this upcoming movie just so that she can have him redeem himself by killing Snoke and saving her in the next film? I don't know about you my friend but for me that would be incredibly lame.
     
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    yes, but he didn't.

    Obi-Wan was.

    we've yet to see the proof of this. even so, it doesn't matter.

    that's not why he killed Han.

    sigh.

    Ben clearly didn't think he had it so great (the truth of that is immaterial ~ his feelings are his feelings).
    and we don't know how much Snoke influenced him (from the start, as Leia said).

    so you do you see the complexity of the problem, then.
    Han, Luke, and Leia have made mistakes with Ben. some really unfortunate ones.
    they need redemption as much as he does.

    that he was abandoned and lied to? misunderstood? manipulated by evil? he's confused and he's in pain.
    his own parents love and forgive him ~ i'm surely no judge over them.

    and i respect your opinion as well, even if i disagree.

    we don't know yet. it's not finished. if he is redeemed and lives to atone for his crimes, then no, it's not a mirror of Vader at all.
    there are many ways this could play out thematically redemptive without it being a carbon copy.
     
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    I guess we'll just have to call this one of those I agree that we disagree. We will have to wait and see what Disney comes up with.
     
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    Hopefully Chewbacca won't become the iago to Kylo's jaffar.
     
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    I hope so too my friend cause I really don't like where this story is going.
     
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    Honestly, i prefer Chewber :D .
     
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    When Stormtroopers got hit with a bolt from Chewie's bowcaster, they went flying.

    Not Kylo.

    Instead of getting blown off the catwalk, the plot force allowed him to just take a knee and catch his breathe.

    If only Chewie had shot him in the face, then he'd have a real reason to cosplay like Grandpa Vader.
    :p
     
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    Man they cut that scene short with Chewy. I needed to see him pulling some Stormtrooper's arms out of their sockets.
     
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    Screen Shot 2016-06-11 at 6.58.31 PM.png

    something a little more light-hearted.
     
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