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Clone Wars is NOT A KIDS SHOW... but did that make it better or worse?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars' started by Lukestarbucker, Jun 1, 2020.

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  1. Lukestarbucker

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    What do you guys think?
     
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    I think it makes it better. if it was catering to kids we would miss out on so much of the story and the drama... and would general greivous even exist?! lol
     
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    Better. I personally think there's a difference between a kid's show (Pokemon, Star Wars Resistance, etc) and a show for all ages (Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Clone Wars, etc), and the line is drawn when the show stops treating the kid - and therefore the story - like children. Are there topics too tough for kids to grasp? Absolutely, and those topics should probably be avoided for a moment. But there are also topics that kids need to learn to wrestle with (how to deal with a bully, when it's actually acceptable to fight and for what, racism and bigotry, war and the effects it has on everyone, patriotism vs nationalism, etc) that shows are perfect for exploring.

    The longer TCW went on, the more those topics were explored, and the more depth they were given. I respect that, and kids REMEMBER THAT STUFF.* And when they remember it, they can respect it when they come to realize what it did/was trying to do.

    It's also better because TCW aged with its audience, and by the time the revival hit, most of its audience was young adults and older.

    *Case and point, it's been over 15 years since I saw the Static Shock episodes about bullying (which involved a main character being SHOT IN THE LEG) and racism, and I still remember them and respect the show for covering those topics.

    @Lukestarbucker Welcome to the Cantina!
     
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    Exactly! And as someone most people would call a kid (13), it does stick with you and it does make you respect the decision to cover these topics that maybe considered inappropriate for younger audiences (on the contrary, they should be explored especially with younger audiences!)
     
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    They started off with jar jar, then they got wise and started covering more mature topics. From say, senate spy, to my favorite episode of season 6, rise of clovis.
     
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    Yes! Plenty if death. But to be honest, the fighting and suspension is a key factor in the show. I loved the duels with dramatic endings. Gosh... I love the CW
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    The Clone Wars was quite action packed with all sorts of different characters. A lot of them being quite evil and harsh. For example, Pre Visla, Savage Opress, Darth Maul, Assaj Ventress, and General Grevious. Oh did I mention the evil Pong Krell, ah I did not! Well, he is quite evil. He tricked the clones to killing each other and led the clones to deathly situation while the clones were fatigued. A lot of dark ground is covered in the Clone Wars. I notice that in the show, Rebels, people don’t always die, like the bucket heads (stormtroopers), as when they are shot or hit, you can see them move or nudge if they are in a shot afterwards. However, the Clone Wars turns this darkness and does a lot with it. There still is light, but that dark makes the show dramatic and interesting.
     
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    I think that made it better. Imagine if the clone wars made like a "crap ton" of poop jokes (pun intended). No one would watch it. It honestly would ruin the prequel trilogy. I mean, we aren't discussing Resistance here. But seriously, it would honestly ruin the best trilogy.
     
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    There were some "kid" shows that geared to a younger audience, but I'm in my 50s, and loved the entire series. For me, even though it was an arc early in the look of the animation, I still think the Maleveance Arc is still one of the best ones.
     
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    It's still a kids show.
    Kids entertainment can cover important topics and still be a kids show.
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    I've talked about it before, but people have this weird thing where something being accessible to children means adults can't enjoy so if adults enjoy it their egos kick in and it just can't be a "kids show"
     
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    THIS. "Star Wars is for 12 year olds." From the creators mouth, also he doesn't mean that you have to be a 12 year old to enjoy it.
     
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    Many shows made for kids tackler harsher and more important topics than "adult" shows.
    Why? Because these are things that are important for kids to learn and take in early.

    A show like Steven Universe, obviously made for children does more to tackle tough topics for kids than "adult" shows like NCIS or any of the spinoffs or really any procedural
     
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    Honestly, if more adults had hearts like children do... the world would be a whole lot better for it.
     
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    I think personally they picked a great episode to be first and keep people hooked because i would be a bit uneasy if the zygerrian slave one was the first episode. they also did a great job of having a balance of episodes for different ages, because although I didn't like the droid episodes, I think they should be there for younger audiences. also for those of us who spent our childhood watching clone wars, as you got older, the show got more mature as it got older too.
     
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    Thats well said. An important part of the CW was its diversity in episodes, battles, characters, and whatnot. For example, sprinkled in, we get to see some key battles of the CW. Then, next thing you know, we see a political stand point of the separatists. Then we get some of the more kid-like content, like the astro droid episodes and whatnot. You make a great point
     
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    i honestly wish they made a show that was fully not for kids.
     
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    Yeah. It would be interesting to say the least. I mean, a show where there is are darker concepts and whatnot. It would really change star wars and our perspectives on it
     
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    No the clone wars was a kids show. Just because it had some dark themes doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant for kids. All of Star Wars is meant for kids. It just so happens adults like it as well
     
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    I mean yeah. You technically are correct. When I created this thread i had the concept of comparison in mind. Just compare CW to Resistance or Rebels. Big difference ya know. It is a kids show and it just has some dark themes. This is true. Just comparing it to other shows makes me kinda rethink ya know
     
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    Using your logic, the movies themselves are not for kids, when they absolutely are.
     
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    I'm not sure I would support an 8-year-old watching r1 or rots. i think they can watch the originals but wait until they are a little old like 10 or 11 to show them anything else. personally, I watched rots for the first time when I was about 10 and I still was terrified of Anakin. yes, that is the point for us to be scared of him, but not super scared. and some of the things in star wars you do have to wait a bit to watch until you are older. i personally did not understand some of the humor in tcw early seasons until i rewatched it. but since i was older when i watched the later season i understood the humor.
     
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