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Clues to the ST from early ANH drafts

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by mrverylongusername, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. mrverylongusername

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    I've been looking again at Lucas' early drafts of Star Wars: A New Hope (or just plain old Star Wars to the oldies like me)

    This site is really useful http://starwarz.com/starkiller/the-development-of-star-wars-a-new-hope/ as is the book Star Wars: The Annotated Scripts.

    Reading through it's clear that Lucas never completely gave up on many themes/ideas/names and recycled them in ESB, RoTJ and the PT.

    I know Lucas' original outline for the sequels was rejected, but do we know if that means EVERYTHING, or whether some themes were retained? With Lucasfilm Story Group still holding the reins, I expect we might still see a few of these very early Lucas ideas creeping into Ep VIII and IX.

    When RJ revealed which films were influential on VIII one theme kept recurring, uneasy truces and opposing forces working toward a common goal. In the '74 "The Star Wars" draft (serialised by Dark Horse in comic form) the distinction between Jedi and Sith was not so polar. Both were force users, but they had different alliegences in a war - it wasn't so much the good vs evil as we have come to know. In that version Vader (a Sith loyal to the non-force-user Emperor) tortures Annikin (a character comparable to Luke.). Valorum (another Sith) recognises the similarity between the honour codes of both Jedi and Sith and changes sides to rescue Annikin and defeat Vader. Obviously that theme crops up in RoTJ with Vader's redemption, but I wonder if it might also make it in a slightly different form into VIII/IX.

    We are told that Kylo is not a Sith. Is there more to this than simply complying with events of the OT? Maybe the Knights of Ren are not evil per se, as the Sith were. Perhaps they are more like the grey Jedi of the EU: non aligned force users.

    In the '75 second draft two other interesting elements appear: The Kiber crystal and force draining.

    Deak and Luke are early incarnations of Luke and Leia. Deak's quest is to recover the Kaibur Crystal to restore the Ashla (lightside) which has been weakened by the growing power of the Bogan (darkside) This will allow his Jedi father the Starkiller to defeat the evil forces. This Kaibur crystal is small enough to be hidden in his belt - not the larger version from Splinter of the Minds Eye. Small enough to be in a lightsabre perhaps? Deak is captured by the Sith Lord Vader and is force drained. Vader is unaware of Deak's brother Luke, who reluctantly accepts his destiny as the son of a Jedi and saves the day by retrieving the Crystal, restoring his brothers power and restoring the power of the Ashla.

    There's also some very interesting early ideas about the discovery of "The Force of Others" by the Holy Man known as the Skywalker.

    So in summary, these are things that I think might crop up in the ST (and already seem to tie in with rumours)

    1. The idea of enemies working together to defeat a common enemy. Is Snoke a 'force vampire' sustaining his life force by feeding off powerful force users; as much a threat to Kylo as he is to Luke/Leia?
    2. The rumour of a force drained Luke, in exile for his own protection
    3. A small easily hidden Kaibur crystal which amplifies the force - is this the one in Anakin's sabre?
    4. A hero reluctant to accept their destiny as Jedi (could be Finn or Rey in my eyes)

    Thoughts?
     
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    Well, we just got Ashla and Bogan canonized with the season three premier of rebels along with the Bendu, the one ion the middle, the gray area. Additionally, I would argue that Rey is already the reluctant hero (which is also a main theme of the Joseph Campbell monomyth.
     
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    Very interesting. I've recently posted two threads (The Great Mystery Revealed and Did Snoke Force drain Luke?) that directly relates to the ideas you present.

    I'm pretty certain now that Snoke drains people of their power and that there is a good chance this has happened to Luke. Perhaps Rey restores Luke's power with the crystal inside his saber?

    (Ha - iPhone just tried to autocorrect "his saber" to "daughter").
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 26, 2016, Original Post Date: Sep 26, 2016 ---
    Just a side note: I suspected for a while that they'd reuse the "map to dagobah in Luke's saber" idea in tesb original script in TFA.

    I think the saber and its contents will have a further role to play in viii...
     
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    "Daughter", did you say?

    [​IMG]

    I find your iPhone's lack of logic disturbing.
     
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    I remember seeing, in the TFN forums, an old outline of Episodes 7-9 written by George back in the late 70's (before ESB). The outline has very few items but included the following (first two of which have been re-used in TFA).

    1. Luke was gone and the rebel alliance had to look for him (in that old outline, the emperor and Darth Vader did not died until Episode 9, and no mention of Vader as Luke's father).
    2. There was a force-sensitive girl who grew up without a family on the other side of the galaxy.
    3. The girl turned out to be Luke's sister, and Luke had gone away because he was searching for her (originally Leia wasn't Luke's sister, and we will see if this item will be re-used in the ST, i.e., whether Rey is related to Luke or not).
     
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    A lot of his earlier drafts were withdrawen.edited over time but I SEE it as the modern creators trying to fit in all of the mythology within the paremeters.
     
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