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Colin Trevorrow Won't Direct Ep. IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by CaptainPhastastic, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. CaptainPhastastic

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    OOOF. Trevorrow's film is getting brutalized online. I am not a betting man, but if I were, I'd wager a fair amount that he doesn't wind up directing Ep. 9.

    The Hollywood Reporter:
    "Those of us who've allowed ourselves to care about the latest Star Wars trilogy may be made fearful about the prospect of an Episode IX directed by Trevorrow. The garden-variety blockbuster lameness of his Jurassic World was one thing; after this near-catastrophe, can he really be trusted with the fate of the Jedi?"

    The Guardian:
    "In its pure misjudged ickiness, bad-acting ropiness, and its quirksy, smirksy passive-aggressive tweeness, this insidiously terrible film could hardly get any more skin-crawling. And its periodic attempts at lightening the tone with comedy are more chillingly humourless than anything I have seen in a long while."

    Variety:
    "There's the kind of bad movie that just sits there, unfolding with grimly predictable monotony. Then there's the kind where the badness expands and metastasises, taking on a jaw-dropping life of its own, pushing through to ever-higher levels of garishness. The Book of Henry, directed by Colin Trevorrow from Gregg Hurwitz's script, is of the latter, you've-got-to-see-it-to-disbelieve-it variety."

    Collider:
    "It's like blending Capri Sun with absinthe. And yet that's pretty much the movie director Colin Trevorrow made. He plays Gregg Hurwitz' script completely straight, and what could have been a story about a child unable to come to terms with evil in the world instead becomes a dehumanising mess that rides its high concept straight to hell."

    Vulture:
    "In 10 years The Book of Henry will be shown in triple features with The Room and Birdemic. Seriously."

    Nerdist:
    "The Book of Henry is like an hour and forty minutes of repeatedly spilling grape juice."

    Birth.Movies.Death:
    "Hard to imagine a movie being worse or more obnoxious than BOOK OF HENRY"

    Bustle:
    "My "favorite" part of THE BOOK OF HENRY was when it became 13 REASONS WHY then gracefully transitioned into AMERICAN SNIPER"

    Slashfilm/Village Voice critic:
    "give star wars 9 to bong joon ho"

    RogertEbert.com:
    "So BOOK OF HENRY is PS I LOVE YOU, SIMON BIRCH, and REAR WINDOW rolled up in a hundred dollar bill and lit on fire?"

    The Atlantic:
    "honestly the whole thing just feels like an insane dream i had"



    Woooof. Jurassic Park, despite the money it made, was truly awful also. Yeah yeah...studio involvement, etc. But wow, ladies and gents...I am not......confident. I am guessing Disney execs are sweating through their suits at these reactions. Again, I bet Trevorrow gets removed from this project.
     
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    I thought Jurassic World was okay, but...man, those Book of Henry reviews are pretty brutal.
     
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    [​IMG] Oops... taken down by the critics
     
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    These reviews won't do anything to Lucasfilm's decision, but will play the role the re-shoots did for Rogue One. Every naysayer will have this argument. Instead of "But, but, re-shoots... they are re-shooting 40 % of movie!" we will have "But, but, The Book of Henry!"

    Because if he made one bad movie (I don't know that it's bad, I haven't seen it and the critics I listen to liked it) that must mean that Episode IX will be bad. Rumor mill will drag him through mud. Hopefully he has a fortitude of Gareth "But, but, he was hiding Godzilla!" Edwards...
     
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    That's a good point. With the amount of money Disney was willing to pour into the reshoots of Rogue One, they can make Ep. IX work whether Trevorrow remains onboard or not.
     
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    Are we really going to bash him for taking a risk with an unconventional movie that most of us haven't even seen yet?
    Come on, we're better than that.
     
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    If Critics hate it then it's probably good.
     
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    The problem with JW was the writing. They basically wrote a remake of JP'93 - except they added tourists/park-goers. I believe that's not Trevorrow's fault. I thought it was a very-well directed film despite the flawed script.
     
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    Basically what happened was Universal came up with core ideas and action sequences they wanted.
    Trevorrow and Derek Connelly had to write around that.
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    "Everything in Hollywood is a remake or unoriginal!"

    *makes original unconventional film*

    "It doesn't make sense and it's weird!"
     
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    Anybody remember that time Josh Trank directed a Star Wars movie?
     
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    I'm only worried about the fact that this will be only his 4th or 5th movie and second time directing a blockbuster. He might do a great job with the entire team st LFL guiding him though. He didn't have that with Jurassic world.
     
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    That's not what I am saying. I am saying it's not a good look, and Disney has done this already with Josh Trank. (Partly) different reasons (Trank was supposedly very difficult, but also they heard how poor Fantastic was turning out), but they've proven to be risk averse and not afraid to fire a Star Wars director because of bad press/bad movies.

    Was it a snap decision to post this thread? Yes. But I was taken aback at these reviews. I haven't seen such brutal, acidic reviews in a while. Comparing it to The Room and Birdemic? That is next level bad. I, of course, have to see it before I can critique it myself. But...wow. These reviews are a bad look for a director set to close out such a massive franchise.
     
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    Remeber how instable he was, tthis is a bold comparison, knowing that Trevorrow is perfeactly capable of filming a big franchise film and make it above 1bil.

    We shouldn't forget that IX is is a group endeavor and if he needs help LFL is perfectly set up to provide it. Something that this film might have lacked, and since he wasn't writing it only directing it is hard to tell what went on.
     
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    Running in heels WAS Trevorrow's FAULT. Bryce Dallas Howard insisted on heels, and he not only did not shut her down because DUH, that's just lunacy and of COURSE that's going to play poorly, but he failed to ANTICIPATE that it would play poorly. That was HIS job to catch and shut down, but he let it go. Which was........unfortunate:

    She felt like surrendering the heels felt like surrendering the femininity of the character, even though women are — I don’t want to say forced to wear heels — but you’re expected to wear heels in certain environments. And she felt that, even though the image of her running away from the T-Rex in heels is... honestly, maybe I feel that I’m revealing my own ignorance in not having anticipated how that was going to become a subject of discussion, the way that it has. I was thinking about it solely for her comfort, and for logic reasons — the same thing that we’re talking about: ‘Can’t we find some other way? And she’s like, ‘No, no, I’m going to go for it.’ Because that’s something special. I mean, we are talking about it. And these movies, having something that’s iconic to themselves — for better or worse, that’s an image that people are going to remember. [Laughs]

    :confused:
     
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    Completely different.
    It wasn't the outcome of the movie, it was Trank's behavior.

    Trank acted like a petulant child who should have full control over this massive film and when the studio butted in on some choices he began to be a dick to everyone. Instead of handling it like an adult he threw multiple temper-tantrums and even got to the point of almost throwing blows with the star of the film.

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Mile...t-Got-Fistfight-Fantastic-Four-Set-77277.html

    Let me know if Trevorrow reportedly tried going chest to chest with Jaeden Lieberher :D
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    Running from the T-Rex in heels is such a dumb thing to get upset about. Why? Because you aren't outrunning a T-Rex in any footwear.
    Usain Bolt's fastest time is 44.72 km/h (27.8 mph) and the T-Rex ran 72.4 km/h (45 mph)
     
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    Yes. He was unstable. But let's be freakin' real here: if Disney thought Josh Trank:

    a.) was unstable...
    b.) but also was a quality director who was going to make a quality film that was going to make them a billion dollars, despite him being unstable...

    ...they'd never in a million years have fired Josh Trank. In fact, they'd hire him, and then immediately start looking for as many brash, unstable, Josh Trank-like directors they could find. It's money, and money only, that a corporation cares about. Especially Disney. "It's the money, stupid."

    They fired Josh Trank because he was stinking up the joint on Fantastic. Fox knew it. Disney through the grapevine knew it. The reviews bore that out. Disney couldn't have the stink of that rotten film on their prestige franchise. If Disney sits down and takes a look at Book of Henry and thinks it is truly the garbage that these critics claim it is (and a lot of critics I trust say that it definitely is), you truly don't think Disney is going to start to have second thoughts...hell, third, fourth, fifth thoughts about Trevorrow directing the bookend of this franchise, you are deluding yourself.
     
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    They new it since Kinberg was there and he also was there at te LFL meetings prior to TFA, they had first source info.
    They are well connected and sure don't need our help or insights to get to the bottom of this.
    Whatever it is KK herself and LFL have enough experience since they are actually working in Hollywood for decades, for us it may be a bit too early to sharpen the pitchforks but that's maybe just me. Disney itself isn't really in the creative concept but could also spare us from further damage, since they also know one or two things about this.
    Maybe wait and see and let's not forget that in this case we can only judge his director decision, he isn't credited in the writing department. So the cast is on him, the cinematography, sets and stuff.
     
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    Am I the only one wondering why reviewers(especially The Guardian), can't use direct, understandable English to get their point across?
     
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    The "you" up there is the royal you. Not YOU in particular. I'll rephrase: "if one thinks this, one is deluding themselves."

    Again, I am not pretending to be in the know. I am most certainly not. I'm just some chucklehead siting on his computer at work instead of drafting this darn motion to dismiss that I should be working on instead. Nevertheless, I just wanted to point out how poor these reviews are, and how, from what we've seen, Disney handles stuff like that. But you're right. Obviously let's let it play out and see how Disney reacts. It's not a good look, though, and with two films in a row with some major criticism, I'd wager it's making The Mouse think twice. Again: it's only abut the money. If they thought Trank would deliver trucks full of money, they wouldn't care an iota about his alleged "behavior."
     
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    Its never too early to sharpen the pitchforks! I'm always ready to jump on a hate-wagon!
     
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