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Comparing Luke and Han's death.

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Adam812, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. Adam812

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    I wasn't surprised by either Luke or Han's deaths. I understood from the beginning that the ST would focus on
    newer characters and the old characters would play the role of passing the torch. And in a lot of stories, the mentor figures must pass on as part of the main protagonists journey. Examples include Gandalf in LOTR, Dumbledoor in Harry Potter, and Obi-wan in the original Star Wars. So I figured some of the old characters would go in the new trilogy.

    I don't remember many complaining of Han's death in TFA. And he died by being murdered by his own son.
    Luke goes out in blaze of glory by facing down the First Order and creating a spark of hope in the galaxy.
    Even Mark Hamill himself said that Luke had a great exit in TLJ.

    So why was Luke's death so much more controversial than Han's?
     
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    I like both deaths. Yes, they were pretty much predictable, especially Han's one. But they were still emotional and impactful.

    Furthermore his death was very important for Kylo's redemption. Luke killed himself, thus Kylo couldn't kill him and let the past die by himself.

    I think it's so much more "controversial" because people were expecting an overpowerd and all wise Jedi Master Luke Skywalker. But in the end he was just a simple man.
     
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    i still haven't heard the end of complaining about Han's death from my sister. she's getting better, though. XD

    while i'm sad to see the OT characters die, i'm satisfied with how they've done it.
    Han's was a tragedy but will hopefully help bring Ben back, and Luke's was purposeful (not to mention epic).

    i think most everyone expected Han to die. he didn't want to be in Star Wars anymore.
    we probably expected Luke to live because he's still young and we assumed he'd raise the Jedi, etc.
     
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    This and as soon as Han shouted "Ben" we all knew he would die.

    I expected Luke to die in IX and Leia to survive the whole trilogy. Now it seems like the whole OT will die. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if they had known that Carrie Fisher would pass before EPIX. Would they have kept Luke alive?
     
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    totally.

    i actually believe so. at least they would have perhaps pushed his death to ix.
    i hope one day we get the know the story as it would have been with Leia in the finale.
    i still wonder if they are going to use Luke's ghost or Anakin to fill her role.
    no matter what, it's never going to have the same impact as it would if it had been Leia.

    * still secretly hoping Leia is not dead; she's in the Outer Rim and we just don't see her ~ and Ben goes home to be with her in the end.
     
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    I don't want to know. Because then I could dislike the ST even more.

    Luke will haunt Kylo and Anakin will guide Rey. That's my prediction.

    Unfortunately the comics hint at something different.
     
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    there's a whole eu out there that people cling to and use as an excuse to be dissatisfied. what's the point of that?
    Chewbacca was conceived as a naked hairless thing, Han will have always shot first, and the Revenge of the Sith novel reads better than the movie plays.
    it's all fine.

    i want it the other way around.
    Luke guides Rey, Anakin tells Ren Ben to get his snott together.

    comics schmomics. XD
     
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    Wouldn't make much sense. => Luke: "See you around kid." Furthermore Mark Hamill is a troll, he would love haunting Kylo. He could make funny jokes about Kylo etc. But yeah, Anakin is better for Kylo. But I think Anakin will only have one scene. A key scene in Ren's redemption or fall.

    Canon is canon.
     
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    that's all i want. i don't see any reason for Anakin to talk to Rey.

    and Hux has a tooka named Millicent.
    at the end of the day it's our world to conceive.
    and the creative way with which i've seen some people interpret "canon" tells me canon is really not canon except to people obsessed with canon. XD
     
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    Probably
     
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