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Connections between Rogue One and Rebels

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Laggamaroo, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. Laggamaroo

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    Ok, I can't be the only one who is hoping to see more things tying R1 and Rebels together going forward.

    Things like U-Wings, those awesome new yet familiar trooper designs, Deathtroopers, Shoretroopers, Imperial Ground Crew, and hopefully a character or two associated with the Rebel Alliance cell that ends up based on Yavin IV.

    What do y'all think, is it inevitable that they add a few elements from what looks to be an amazing film into what is an awesome show set close to the same time period? Or are the Rebels from the show too far removed from all that action and more about wrapping up loose ends from the Clone Wars (i.e. lots of Force users, lightsabers, Ahsoka, etc)?
     
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    I don't think they're too far removed, but not as closely tied as we hope (see what I did there ;)) Seeing Deathtroopers would be epic, and you're probably right on the money about the U-Wings. Who knows though - maybe Kanan (and maybe Ezra too) make a trip to Jedha and meet Chirrut (this would be an easy crossover to do), or maybe the Rebels crew are the ones who capture Jyn and bring her to Yavin IV or something.

    And Saw. I have no doubt we'll be seeing Saw again sometime.
     
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    If they were really looking to cross-over, I think Thrawn would've been the villain in Rogue One.

    I'm still hoping there is a cameo for him.
     
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    Did Thrawn's re-entry into the canon happen too late for Rogue One, I wonder?
     
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    @tm0910196 We really don't know how the story group works... its certainly possible that was the case.

    My best guess is story based: that they didn't want to finally introduce Thrawn to the masses, only to have Vader choke him to death for losing the Death Star plans. THAT, would be a major waste.
     
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    If theres any tie in at all, just look for a minor character from Rouge One to make an appearance on Rebels
     
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    I'm of the belief that what Mon Mothma's crew on Yavin was doing was not in direct connection or contact with Phoenix Squadron, which was a cell managed and supplied by Bail.

    They would have logically been kept as separate as possible with as little contact right up until Rogue One, so I'm not anticipating much tie-in other than Bail Organa making contact.
     
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    The ending of ANH illustrates that the Yavin Rebels are definitely connected to her and her father, so I'm sure there's a good reason to bring Phoenix Squadron across their path at the least.

    Your post also makes me wonder why such a prominent figure such as Mon Mothma was there at the base. Why wouldn't Bail Organa be a more linear choice of a character to connect the Rogue One crew to Phoenix Squadron?

    (I guess at this point we should tread carefully around R1 spoilers..?)
     
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    The reason why I think Mon Mothma is there is - in my own head-canon that is awaiting to be confirmed or not by the canon as its being currently developed - that her cell (and it makes sense that there are separate cells operating independently until right before Rogue One when they become 'allied'....as in 'alliance) is just to explain why Phoenix Squadron is made of A-Wings supplied by Bail, who is in contact with that group as per Rebels, and the Yavin group is managed (and possibly supplied with X-Wings) by Mon Mothma.

    So I just take the presence of Mothma there and the non-presence of A-Wings as a signal that they were operating somewhat separate from one another until they learned of the Death Star, or close to that time. Therefore, the two cells would have had different equipment and base of operations. I just don't think the Rebel Alliance was really consolidated until very very close to Rogue One.

    {And I only establish this because of the complaints and questions fans have made regarding assumptions on when A-Wings were made/created/used/manufactured blah blah blah}

    We'll see what span of time Rogue One covers, we might only see Mon Mothma give the mission to Cassian and Jyn and 'report back to the Senate for an announcement by the Emperor'....or something.
     
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    Are we in for another long-winded "why wren't these ships in that movie or show?" discussion?? ;)

    I see your point. It does seem like the rebels came together shortly before R1, so a majority of Rebels episodes may not be able to illustrate how all that happened, but at least a few elements and images showing this coming together could be possible. They've already hinted at Wedge showing up next season.
     
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    It is my understanding that Bail Organa is still secretively aiding the rebels, as he is still most likely a Senator up till the point that the Emperor dissolves the senate. Mon Mothma however left the senate long ago and is the known face of the rebellion, and thus in hiding with the Rebels and would because of this usually be headquartered at a rebel base. Also, some would say the Leia is the senator, but I don't think so. She was a member of the Imperial senate in ANH, but not the senator. Most likely she was aid to Bail.

    -Jeff
     
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    If I knew this at some point, I certainly forgot. Thanks!
     
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    I doubt it, I just think they didn't want him in there.

    We do know. Filoni said he's been trying to work Thrawn into rebels since season 1. There is concept art for Kallus being a Chiss. I think Thrawn wasn't ever part of equation because this is John Knolls story.

    Before Rebel's, I'd have agreed with you. But there was a rebels recon that says that Hera's faction has b-wings, and doesn't join the larger rebellion until after ANH. This is the reason we don't see b-wings in ANH or ESB.

    I think the rebel alliance is a very fluid thing. More and more cells join from ANH to ROTJ. The mon cala aren't part of the fight until sometime between ESB and ROTJ.
     
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    So, which is it?

    The Story-Group didn't want Thrawn in there, or he was never in Knoll's-story to begin with?

    :p
     
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    Fair enough, my thoughts were confusing. What I meant is that I doubt the story group tried to add thrawn to Rogue one, because it was just Knoll's story, but they knew they were trying to work Thrawn into canon when they were developing rogue one.
     
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    In guerilla-type warfare, you prefer to have small units or cells, which can easily disappear in the general population. Furthermore, it is important that these units or cells work independently, because the capture of one of the cells would then not lead to the capture of the other cells. For this reason, Hera did not reveal Ahsoka's identity to the other members of the Ghost crew.
     
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    Wouldn't be surprised to see Saw Gerrara show up in Rebels, seeing as he's been in Filoni animation before. Chirrut is my other tip.
     
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    It will be season 4 before we see the tie ins to avoid any potential spoliers.
     
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    They only way I could see this play a part is that after the end of Season 3 or 4, Thrawn is defeated and subsequently replaced by Krennic (and since they're working in different divisions I have no idea how that would make any sense to anybody); or Thrawn's plans go so out of wack he has a sanity slip, unintentionally learns of the Death Star, and tries to use it on the Rebels crew. Krennic takes care of him, but at the end the Crew would have found out about the "Weapons Test." So...let's hope that he doesn't show up in Rogue One.

    And I don't think it was too late so much as "we don't want to use him in this role."
     
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    ooo you just got me thinking. Until otherwise contradicted i've now decided one of the B-Wings in RoJ is being piloted by Hera. and everytime i watch RoJ until (if) hera's final fate is revealed i have decided she's IN the OT

    ;)
     
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