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SPECULATION Could Lando solve the Leia problem?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lobot, Feb 8, 2017.

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    Although I like the idea I agree with @FN-3263827 that contextually it makes more sense for force ghost Anakin to step in.
     
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    The problem with Leia is not a lack of a leader for the Resistance. There's a number of characters that could easily replace her - Ackbar, Poe, Admiral Statura, etc. The role that would be way harder to replace is the role of Kylo's mother and that is where the true question lies.
     
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    Laura Dern, I don't know what role she is playing for TLJ, But I wouldn't like a digital replacement or an actress to replace General Organa maybe Dern's character might substitute for Organa.
     
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    Yeah and again- that's where Hayden Christensen comes in.
     
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    @OP

    I don't see the connection between Lando and Ben, and how he could replace Leia.

    The only person who could replace Leias part in bringing her son back is Anakin, since he is the last person Ben looks up to.
    And I believe that the chances that we see Anakin again in VIII, or IX, increased a lot since Carries death.
    His role will be maybe even bigger than we think, again especially after what happened to Carrie.

    I am def. hyped af for VIII, Rian knows what he's doing.
     
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    This talk about Hayden Christensen has me thinking... Crazy fan fiction again but... that since the first 6 films where about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker, it would bring the whole thing together if a visit from Grandpa is what puts the Skywalker lineage back on track.


    "I chose the dark path to save your grandmother, and it was me that ended up killing her. The love of your uncle is what saved me and why I gave up my own life. Don't make those sacrifices amount to nothing."

    Anakin could totally be the redeemer now that Leia can't be.

    Either that or Rey is a Skywalker and just kills the bastard Kylo to take her place as the fill in for the EU's Jaina Solo, the Sword of the Jedi. (lightsaber)
     
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    I don't know how they write around her actual death without killing her on screen.
     
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    They could end up trying the CGI think or using body doubles and unused dialogue if hey kill her
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    The entire basis of my post is that Lando hasn't been given the prominence within the Skywalker family narrative to shoulder any of Leia's story responsibilities in part 8 & 9, but he also has enough of an established positive connection (and really is the only living character who does) to Luke and Leia to make it plausible that he can affect the story in 8 & 9.

    That was awkward.


    Obviously Leia was going to interact with Luke, Rey, Snoke, and/ Kylo in TLJ & E9. Whatever she was going to do to make the conclusion of this trilogy happen will require one or more characters to cover those story points. Because Lando is alive, was close to the Big 3 at end of ROTJ, LFL could CHOOSE to retcon Kylo and/or Snokes backstory to make Lando an important character pre-TFA which would allow him to show up briefly in TLJ (via the pickups/reshoots that WILL happen) then have him play a big part in covering some of Leia's story responsibilities in E9.

    Using force ghost Anakin could make more sense narratively and seem more natural. My OP was an alternative to that just as a hypothetical. Also, any use of Anakin requires Hayden and I just think using him again is a massive mistake because of his poor acting (my opinion...and others) and negative baggage that he brings would hurt the impact of his appearance even if his acting was great

    I hope that made more sense. It's definitely an out there theory that depends on several assumptions
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    They've said they won't use a digital Leia, but I'm convinced they can sidestep that carefully worded promise.

    I agree they could likely use extra footage that wasn't included in TLJ or TFA in E9 to remove the character, more than likely through her death
     
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    I THINK that the body doubles are more likely like what the industry has done before.
     
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    I think it's more likely they do what they did with Philip Seymour Hoffman in the fourth Hunger Games movie, and pass on some of Leia's role to Poe Dameron and possibly Laura Dern.

    And then feature Carrie very minimally using archive TFA footage via hologram. A nice little parallel.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah it could be, I read they will clash on a argument of leadership, can't wait for that scene.
     
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    Thing is, by doing this - and without Carrie (RIP) there to portray Leia - the scene will feel empty regardless. If anything, I'd rather have this be a catalyst for Ben.

    I assume that IX will take place years after VIII, considering that there is no time jump between the latter and VII. I'd have Leia pass away naturally during this time period, as I feel that SW is very much a reflection of our world and our social interactions, and passing in such a way respects both the character and the actress that portrays her; I think that the notion of recasting/digitally recreating her for a death scene would be nothing but a poor choice by LF and Disney, bringing back an actress who has touched the hearts of millions - if not billions - of people, and to glorify her character's death on-screen would be wholly disrespectful.

    As I said above, I think it could be used as a catalyst for Ben's arc. For example, what if Kylo got so caught up in his own personal desires and hatred that he didn't sense the passing of his own mother years prior to IX, which is revealed to us when confronted by Rey or Luke, when he asks where she is and they explain that she passed away a while ago. Not only does this preserve the character of Leia, it also gives Ben a reason to be redeemed, or turn darker, and Adam Driver is an excellent actor who, I feel, could portray the loss of such an actress and character beautifully.

    Also, may I add, after how great Bloodline was, I'd like to have another novel by Claudia Gray, written from Leia's perspective, in this time period; it does not have to end with her death, but perhaps how she worries about her son and Luke, in differing ways of course, and still mourns the loss of Han, giving us one last chapter - and sufficient closure - for Leia.
     
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    I am in agreement that the most respectful thing that could be done would be to have her pass away in the interregnum between TLJ and IX. In addition, they should address it in the first sentence of the IX crawl.

    "Following the loss of General Organa, the Resistance has faltered in their struggle with the First Order..."
     
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    That would work. They could even have a book that takes place before IX that could canonize her passing.
     
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    You can't just write Leia off like that. The vast majority of viewers don't read the novels.

    That's like starting Empire with "After the loss of Han Solo..."
     
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    I think the best option that they could have would be to do an animated short explaining why she's not present in Episode IX and show it before the movie. That way, it's in mass-circulation and they don't necessarily have to kill her off. Furthermore, it would allow them to implement most of what they already had planned into the story.
     
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    it's weird, but i like it! ~ hahaha

    i'm sure they are going to come up with something simple and elegant ~ and it won't involve killing her.
     
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    I'd hope that they don't actually have her pass on until after the events of Episode IX, because we all know that they're going to make an Episode X eventually.
     
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    Nien Nunb got screen time and he wasn't even a main character. Having a cameo or one of the generals in the briefing or sumthin. Im gonna hope that he at least has a cameo in VIII.
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    Why make Big news of the young Lando being cast, but not have him for the sequel films which is being filmed around the same time, plus wasn't to long ago BDW did a few episoeds of Rebels. Heres hoping we get at least a Lando cameo in VIII
     
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