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SPECULATION Could Leia Lose the Will to Live?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SegNerd, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. SegNerd

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    What do you think about Leia passing away in the same manner as her mother? For example, the opening crawl could start with something like,

    "Heartbroken by her son's betrayal and the loss of her brother, Princess Leia lost the will to go on. Her tragic passing devastated the RESISTANCE but also galvanized their resolve to fight."

    I know the idea was kind of controversial in ROTS, but in addition to adding a nice parallel, in my opinion this would be a tasteful way to finish her character with something that doesn't have to be shown on screen.
     
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    That wouldn't really flow with the ending of TLJ. Leia was very hopeful at the end and found a new spirit for the fight. So, I don't think they'll kill her off in the crawl. Maybe they won't kill her off at all and at the end we see a shot of her back (new actress) embracing one of our heroes or maybe villains. ;D
     
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    It would be too dark for Leia to go that way, but first and foremost:
    This exactly.
     
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    Not only that, that would be very much against Leia's character. Out of the OT trio, she was the strongest. Besides, dying of "a broken heart" is a stupid idea in the first place.
     
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    I think that "losing the will to live" was only the explanation the medics had when having no real medical explanation to what happened to Padmé. It's kinda implied in the way the scenes are edited that somehow Palpatine took Padmé's life force and used it to save Vader (Or it's what I want to believe because losing the will to live is some horrible line hahaha).
    Anyways, I don't think Leia would lose the will to live, she's been fighting her whole life. She won't give up now.
    Also, using the opening crawl to say that Leia has passed is the cheapest and most horrible way they could do it. I really hope they find another way.
     
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    I don't see the implication at all, but I sympathize with why you want to believe that. LOL For the life of me I don't know why Lucas went that route. He could tilted the story just a tad to have Anakin believe so strongly that Padme was having an affair with Obi-Wan that he killed her in his rage and Obi-Wan saved the children.
     
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    I understand that killing Leia in the opening crawl would be a letdown and would not fit with the ending of TLJ. The problem is that there might not be any better option at this point. Recasting her or using CGI would easily generate at least as big a backlash as killing her off in the crawl.

    What I'm saying is that, if they do indeed decide to have Leia die offscreen (since they may not have a choice), this could be a tasteful way to do it.

    I have never agreed with the theory that Palpatine drained Padme's life force to save Anakin. I believe GL has stated that originally Padme died first and then Anakin was rescued, and as these two events got edited closer and closer, they eventually became simultaneous. The connection between the two events is simply that they are both a sort of birth (one beautiful and one evil).
     
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    Just mention in the crawl that she's off doing something in the outer space. At the end you can show her without actually showing her. => She embraces her son (if he gets redeemed and survives). It's as simple as that.
     
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    I very much agree with that - there is no good way to solve this problem. Killing her off in a crawl is, in my opinion, the least bad way to solve it, because it acknowledges the passing away of Carrie and doesn't employ some cheap trickery, like a stand-in who's always standing with her back facing the camera or a recast to pretend "everything is fine," when it actually isn't, but some people may think otherwise. However, I don't think that "a broken heart" is the best idea for a cause of death.
     
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    There is wiggle room for this actually...in Battlefront 2 Leia has "allies" that she sends Shriv and Zay to find in the Outer Rim. I don't think its implausible to send her to them, after the events Crait.
     
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    I lose the will to live reading these forums occasionally . Especially with the Kylo Ren appolgist society. Zzzzzz
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    Seriously though I grew up in a household of seven I only have two folks left. Lost a few pets on the way. I hated the will to live message especially when Padame died. She left two babies. We have just lost Luke who was suffering major bouts of depression. As I have said before I thought suicidal Luke was appalling and a very bad story choices from Rian. If not the worst. Am not sure how Leia is going to be written out. I just hope it's dignified.
     
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    I love the way it rhymes with her mother's death. I think it's a great way to send a character off since the great Carrie Fisher isn't with us anymore.

    Except this is Princess Leia Organa.

    The one who, when things look hopeless, grabs a blaster and opens a hole in the wall and tells her rescuers to jump into the garbage shoot. The one who hides Death Star plans on a droid and sends the droid on an escape pod. The one who choked Jabba to death with her own slave chain. The one who taught others that if they only believe in the Sun when they can see it, they'll never make it through the night.

    This Princes never gives up.

    So it's a great idea @SegNerd - just not for this particular character.
     
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    Better yet, she could have had a complicated birth, been unconscious when Yoda and company were forced to make a decision, sent her with Bail Organa, and died a few years later. That could have explained Leia's remembering her mother just a little bit and Luke not. Not telling Padme about Luke would have been minor compared to lots of the stuff they've done lol.
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    Leia will go into hiding as her health is failing, make a clone of herself much like Jango did and come back revitalized and young. She'll have adventures yet, but only 15-20 years after the ST. Unless of course they want to expand on things and say since she was alive at the cloning, they were able to download her memories and speed up her growth rate. Then Carrie's daughter can play Clone Leia.
     
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    Thats an great idea ;);) ..
    If they could make Leia look as good as she did in the end of the spinoff movie then her turning around and delivering an short line or 2 would be great ;);)..
     
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    Please no cloning... it reduces the sacrifices her character made.
     
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    I could appreciate the parallels here, but for me I think that wouldn't be a fitting end to her character. if you think about it she is the strongest out of the 3 original. After the Fall of Ben... Han left and went back to smuggling. Luke left and decided it was better to be in solitude. Leia is still fighting the good fight even now after the death of her Husband and the Loss of her Brother.

    so for me it would see way out of left field. but again I can appreciate the parallels and could have been cool as well
     
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    I’m really hoping Lucasfilm has learned their lesson from the prequels. Padmé simply losing the will to live was heavily criticized by fans. It’s a ridiculous excuse for her death when there were so many other things that could’ve made sense. I don’t think they’d go that route again.

    Not to mention, as others have stated, Leia has always been, emotionally, the strongest character of the original trio and at the end of The Last Jedi, we see her full of hope in spite of all that she has lost. Padmé couldn’t accept Anakin’s turn to the dark side, which contributed to her death. However, when Leia reunites with Luke in The Last Jedi, she comes to terms with the fact that she’s lost Ben to the dark side, and still remains optimistic about the future of the rebellion.

    I really like the idea of there being a parallel between Leia and Padmé’s deaths, but Padmé’s death was handled so poorly that I don’t see it being possible to do that with Leia, especially because her loss is much greater—not only are we losing the last of the original characters, but we’re saying goodbye to the actress that played her as well.

    There’s really no perfect way to handle it, but I don’t think having Leia give up now is the solution because it defeats everything that has defined her character since A New Hope. If nothing else, The Last Jedi novelization specifies that her being blown into space caused some underlying health issues that she may have succumbed to by the start of Episode IX. (One of these issues had something to do with a lack of oxygen, if I remember correctly, so if you really wanted her death to parallel that of her mother’s in some way, perhaps that might be a better and more subtle way of doing it.)
     
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    Haha, the "Kylo Ren apologist society".

    I don't make excuses for the horrible things he's done, but I love the character.
     
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    Kylo Ren is a punk b*tch. But he's our punk b*tch.
     
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    They would not cast leading role Mara if Leia would be still in game.

    Besides Disney knows that if they re-cast Leia than what happened to marines during landing on Iwo-Jima will be picnic compared to what will happen to their franchise.
     
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