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Could Rey be a clone of Luke ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Obi-Bun, Dec 21, 2015.

  1. Obi-Bun

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    Well, may be clone is not a suitable word to describe.

    I don't mean like duplicate Jango Fett and make a same height same look stormtrooper in AOTC, I mean like just use Luke's DNA (or change something) to create a new born baby who has the same force power as Luke.

    Why? Because in the flashback scene when Rey first encounter Luke's lightsaber, it has Luke in it, it has R2-D2 in it, it has the scene where Rylo and Tke Knights Of Ren standing besides the dead bodies of the Jedi apprentices, so he/she should be there and watched them happened, but it seems Kylo does not recognize her.
    If Luke was married and had a girl, Kylo(Ben) should know
    So it is possible that Rey was created (so no family to her) and was kept as a secret apprentice of Luke.
    But after the event that Ben betrayed Luke and wiped out all the Jedi apprentices, he sent her to a safe place (Jakku) and frozened all her memories.
    Why Lor San Tekka is also in Jakku, because he has to take care of Rey,make sure The First Order and Kylo can not find her, just like Obi-Wan hide in Tatooine to protect Luke.
    Why create Rey, because Luke has no offspring and wants someone has the same force power and the same attitude as him as a Jedi Master

    Just guessing

    Thanks for reading, and sorry for my poor English
     
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    Clone is exact duplicate of the original. 100% same DNA.
    So nope, Rey is not a clone of Luke.
     
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    Welcome to The Cantina!

    Oddly, I posted something in another thread saying that Cloning Techno seems to have survived the OT since it is mentioned by Kylo Ren in TFA.
    So, technically, it's a possibility.

    Luke could have created a clone of himself. And science says that you can create a female clone of yourself (if you are a male)...not the opposite.

    So... it would be an interesting twist that COULD happen in the Star Wars universe.

    Will R-J go there with Episode VIII? I don't know... I tend to say probably no. It would maybe make more sense having Rey as Luke's daughter.

    Kylo Ren, being Luke's protege feels "abandoned" by his master-uncle when Rey is born.
    The "legacy" saber was meant for him... and now, with Luke having a descendant, it becomes a problem.
    So he grows jealous and starts listening to Snoke.

    Then, having murdered all Jedi in the academy, he spares Rey's life but sends her on a remote planet so she cannot complete her training.
     
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    I'm thinking Kylo mentioned cloning for a reason, why else have that line in the movie, but I suspect the reason is not for story purposes but rather remind the audience that the Stormtroopers in the film are not clones. There's been a lot of clones this last decade so it is essentially a headsup to the general audience: We're not in Clonesas anymore.

    That being said, upon tonight's second viewing I noticed that the film actually hints at five distinct possibilities:
    1) Luke's daughter (Techwiz, eyes, the Force, same story essentially)
    2) Han and Leia's daughter (Leia's hug, Han and Rey's similar thinking)
    3) Obi-Wan's relative (you hear Ewan and Alec both; the way Rey sits down in the Falcon is done exactly like Obi-Wan did in IV)
    4) Created in the same way as Anakin (Kylo doesn't seem to know her, she was watched over)
    5) Her parents aren't important

    You could find arguments for all of these...but the one that seems to be the most obvious is Luke.
     
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    I think it would sullen the emotional impact of Rey's character if she was a clone. I think Rey's backstory, whether she is Luke's daughter or not will add much depth to her character, and significantly impact her future in the story. Just think if Luke were a clone of Anakin, would we have the same emotional attachment to the character, or appreciate his journey from the young boy on Tatooine to Jedi? I think it would be easier to just make Rey Luke's daughter, than having to explain her being a clone. But who knows.
     
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    Now, everybody is expecting Rey should be the daughter of Luke, but I think there should be a twist. I don't think fans want to listen "I'm your father" for a second time.
     
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    I think the clone aspect of SW was left in the OT. Since J.J. left it open for so many backstories to unfold Rey's character and the lightsaber is fitting to all of us as that we want her to be Luke's Daughter. I think they are just like George Lucas and just winging certain character faith. Rey is "TFA" she's able to use the force quick in the movie. I think JJ and all the directors are staying away from the whole jedi order. Luke is the last jedi and more leaning on the force as a whole.

    May the force be with you always...
     
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    I think the clones are something to insult Hux. Berol Hux, his father, build the Imperial academy and came up with the idea to brainwash kids, he thought clones were to vulnerable to genetic bioweapons.
     
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    yup
     
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    That is not true.
    Clones are exact duplicate of the original. 100% the same DNA.

    Females have different DNA than males. Sex chromosomes are different.
    Males have XY, females have XX.

    Clones are always the same gender, and look the same.
     
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    are we really going here?
     
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    We are speaking about clones and what is possible.
     
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    I doubt Rey is a clone, we don't need that becoming her existence.
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    Not a bad theory! Welcome to The Cantina
     
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    Welcome! @Singapura has been having the same discussion over in the Finn thread (with the added addition of Finn possibly being a clone), so you're not alone in your thoughts! It's possible! I doubt that'll be the case, but who knows!
     
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    Good to see I'm not alone here. Yes "clone" may be the technically incorrect term but there are more ways to recombine DNA (Jurassic Park anyone?) It's just too obvious for Rey to be Luke's daughter. She is connected though, because of her instinctive grasp of the Force, because she was chosen by Luke's lightsaber and because her whole journey in the movie led to Skywalker. If you think a bit further, there are many parallels between the Luke and Leia story and Finn and Rey as well. Both not in a place they're suposed to be, both don't know their parents, both like eachother very much. Finn has the same amazing ability to absorb knowledge as is evidenced by his use of canons in the Tie fighter and the Falcon, his knowledge of Star Killer Base and his ability to hold his own with a lightsaber. He's just not as far progressed in his use of the Force as Rey which leads me to believe they were both at Luke's academy when it was destroyed by the First Order. Seeing they're all about the same age, Kylo Ren was there as well probably. Luke managed to stash away his first clone and hid her. He programmed her so she wouldn't leave the planet until her "family" came to get her. That's why she wants to go back all the time. She already received some training as you can see by her use of a staff (and hand-yo-hand techniques) to defend herself. Ben Solo was abducted by the Order and trained by Snooke to use the dark side of the Force. And I think Finn was either a clone or a youngling at the academy. He was abducted too but wasn't obviously strong in the Force so they made a Storm Trooper out of him. He wasn't very good at that either because he ended up in a sanitation squad. Or was he? Maybe he was instinctively good at hiding or programmed to hide his Force powers (like Luke seemed to be before he met Kenobi and like Leia was). If that's the case he might be a clone of Luke too. What better way to hide your genes than in someone who isn't even of your race? This would almost make a perfect parallel of the Luke and Leia love story and a great twist.
     
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    This is taking me back to those prequel speculation days when seemingly every character was speculated to be a clone!

    Palpatine is a clone of Darth Sidious!
    Old Ben is a clone and that's why he doesn't remember R2-D2!
    Padme is a clone of herself and the real Padme is Mon Mothma!

    etc.
     
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    A nonsense thread(r2-d2)
     
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    Thank you for your amazing insight. Well argumented.
     
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    I just don't think I must explain my post. Disney is not going that way, trust me on this.
     
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