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SPECULATION Could Solo be in May as a Cleanser?

Discussion in 'Solo' started by cawatrooper, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. cawatrooper

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    Random thought, and this is more than likely just a stupid conspiracy theory, but I can't help but notice how not only was Solo scheduled for a May release, but Ron Howard seemingly busted his butt to get it out on time.

    Obviously this could be because Howard is a professional who knows how to get the job done, but also consider the following:

    -Solo seems like a love letter to the old canon- referencing planets, species, events, and even characters from the EU

    - Obviously, there was some backlash from a (very) vocal group of fans after The Last Jedi

    - In some ways, that backlash could have been predicted
    Like how Luke is now apparently dead


    So, let me just get out this tin foil hat...

    Here we go...

    Okay, so what if Kennedy and co wanted to tell the story in TLJ and saw many of its plot points as necessary for where IX goes (because unlike the peanut gallery on the internet, they actually know where this story is going) but were well aware that it would be a rather controversial movie?

    By staging Solo the following May, they would have the opportunity to:

    - Potentially win fans over again with a much more lighthearted, indulgent film that included tons of references for old Star Wars fans

    - Cleanse the "bad taste" of TLJ for fans who weren't keen on it

    - Allow for a film to still be released in 2018, but to also create a longer gap before Episode IX to make for a longer build up and anticipation for the trilogy's finale




    More than likely these things are merely serendipitous, but we are talking Disney here... they're wily, and I could see them taking this into account.

    Anyway, anyone else feel this could have been possible? Or am I just waaaaay overthinking this? :p
     
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    I think you're on track with the wanting a longer gap between 8 and 9
     
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    It's certainly not a bad idea. And I guess the gap between 8 and 9 is still the same, but the "saturation" of Star Wars would be lessened by then (and strongest during the relatively smaller release of Solo).

    Because apparently some people get tired of Star Wars movies coming out every year, for some reason. :p
     
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    Are they tired of yearly Star Wars or just yearly Star Wars that isn't what they want?
    I bet those who loved TLJ are happy as hell with yearly and those that didn't think it's saturated.

    And if opinions on TLJ were reversed, so would wanting yearly SW
     
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    i'm more aghast that with Solo coming out in May, we'll have 500 and some-odd days before we get more Star Wars and that's well over a year!

    [​IMG]
     
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    *Kathleen Kennedy twirls mustache evilly*
     
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    that's it! i've had it! i'm quitting Star Wars!

    (at least for the next 30 minutes while i take a quick lunch break, though i can't promise i won't google space wigglies while i'm gone).
     
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    For real, though.

    Hopefully those new television series come out soon and can partially fill that GFFA-sized void in my heart.
     
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    this could be the way we win! : D
     
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    Who's mustache? Lando's? ;)
     
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    Yup, plenty of time to yell at each other over Solo till 9.
     
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    Right.

    And maybe as a somewhat bleak corollary of my theory here, what if Solo is a scapegoat for TLJ- intended to make the series just a little too silly, making people yearn for the likely darker tones in the sequel trilogy.

    Again, probably not the case, and I think that would hurt the brand a whole lot more than it would help, but I think it's still interesting to consider.
     
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    Here is some points I want to say:

    1. For myself, I do not appreciate "references" to the old EU. It's not good. The entire raison d'etre for discontinuing the "Legend" EU was "people might be confused." -- That's what they said at the time anyway. And furthermore, just imagine "Chewie" written as Han's sworn enemy because "Chewie" doesn't like life debts. Just like Hanharr and Mira. See, New Canon had references to the Old EU right there. Mission accomplished.

    2. Also, cawatrooper, I haven't really read all the spoilers, but what "aspects of EU" were referenced? Do you mean Han having a "mentor?" a "Bria Tharen" like character who isn't named Bria Tharen and having a different backstory? The name Corellia? The fact that Han went to the Imperial academy?

    3. By putting a film in May. I may just be a cheapskate, but going to the movies is somewhat a big deal as far as my family is concerned. Normally we only go to the movies at Christmas. This SW film at May just gurantee people whose schedule like mine will not watch Solo a Star Wars story in theaters.

    4. Cawatrooper, are you saying LFL plan to make Solo so bad that IX, and by extension Episode 8, are masterpieces by comparison? Or what exactly do you mean by Solo in may as a "cleanser?"
     
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    I see where you're coming from, @cawatrooper, but personally I don't believe that's the case. I don't think LFL expected the backlash. I also don't think the backlash is significant enough to panic. It's loud, but look at the recent SWNN poll on Twitter. 4000 people voted, which is a very solid sample:



    Majority of fans liked it, critics liked it, it made the money... Maybe LFL predicted that? Meanwhile, Solo is tracking at $150 million opening (not a given, but it's something). So it turns out it's not like they desperately need a cleanser. And by the way, the troubled Solo seems like a tough and risky sell for a cleanser. :p

    I think they stayed in May to try it out. The stakes are relatively low with this one, so it's OK to experiment. Let's not forget IX was supposed to come out in May as well and I think that the push was motivated mainly by the shakeup. It's very likely that they would stay in May if Trevorrow wasn't fired and that would become the new default for Star Wars (which would be a mistake IMHO, I hope they stick to December, it's perfect). The longer gap between Solo and IX is going to turn out well, because, even though it's painful, it will make everybody more hyped for IX.
     
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    Very good point and something I've said since The Last Jedi came out. There's a very vocal minority who didn't like TLJ. It's clearly a more divisive film, but this idea that there's a huge backlash against the film doesn't add up. I expect Solo to be a fun adventure. That will be a nice bounce back from Rogue One/TLJ which were both much darker than a fun Star Wars film.
     
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    1. (and 2. really)- I guess where I'm coming from with this is that it just feels more "inside" the old canon than the past Disney films. We're not on Lothal, Scarif, Canto Bight... rather, we're going to see Kessel, Corellia, Mimban. It might be small, but it's stuff that old fans will be likely to appreciate. Also, there's been a lot of talk about how the new films aren't including many of the old alien races, and I think Solo will likely change that (while still being its own thing with other new elements)

    3. Yeah, the phrase "summer blockbuster" exists for a reason. Plus, Star Wars used to always come out in May. Christmas didn't start being a tradition until TFA. So, sorry if that's not in line with your own family's traditions, but I don't think it'll be a big problem for Solo in the long run.

    4. Not quite. I guess I'd see it like the ginger at a sushi place. If you've ever been to one, there's this weird flaky pink stuff on the side of your plate- ginger. It's a strong herb that helps cleanse your palate between different types of sushi, allowing you to appreciate the individual types of sushi. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm curious if Solo is being rushed in after TLJ to act as that palate cleanser right after the controversial TLJ, so that audiences are more primed and ready for Episode IX.
     
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    i love ginger with the sushi. not sure how to convert that metaphorically, but you just made me hungry. : D

    i honestly don't think Solo was intended as palate cleanser, though.
     
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    Oh, that just means that you... want to watch The Last Jedi and Solo simultaneously on different screens...? :p

    I mean, I'd be down.

    Oh yeah, it's definitely my one allotted wacky conspiracy theory of the year.

    That being said, I do think that at the very least, the tone of Solo may have been specifically chosen as a more comical contrast to the darker end of TLJ and it's likely equally dark beginning in Episode IX.

    I've been figuring that was the case for a while now, and I think at the very least that's a pretty wise way to control the emotions and flow within the franchise.
     
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    i'm good for that too! XD

    i do think the contrast theory is very sensible and probably accurate. i also don't doubt that given the trouble production Lucasfilm is already okay with writing this one off if it's not a hit. i really think the one-offs are an experimental play space to try out new directors with new ideas. is it going the way they expected? no and we may see some change-ups in the overall plan, but none of that will have anything to do with alleged "backlash" against TLJ. it's just them rolling the dice at the table because they can absolutely afford to do so, first of all, and secondly (and i mentioned this before), it honors the pioneering spirit of George Lucas.

    and that, i think, matters more to them in the end than worrying about a misfire here or there, or bumps along the path.
     
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    You're overthinking it. It's about Disney not wanting to compete against their own films. They moved Avengers up to make sure that movie had a good month before Solo. They couldn't push Solo back to later in the summer without overlapping their Pixar release in June or their MCU release in July. As for December? Well, they don't want Solo competing with Mary Poppins.
     
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