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SPECULATION Could there be a Time Jump in The Last Jedi?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by techsteveo, Apr 28, 2017.

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Do you think there'll be a time skip in TLJ? If so how long?

  1. No, there'll not be a time skip

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  2. Yes, a day to a few days

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  3. Yes, a week to a few weeks

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  4. Yes, a month to a few months

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  5. Yes, a year or more

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  1. techsteveo

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    Does anyone else think there's a possibility of a time jump somewhere in The Last Jedi? After seeing Rey's clothes and hair change drastically from the style she wears on Ach-To to the picture above, it made me wonder. What if instead of there being a jump in time between TFA and TLJ, maybe Rian Johnson is putting a time jump after we see the events of Luke and Rey's first encounter. It would make sense to avoid the time issue in ESB, where it seemed Luke only trained for a week.

    What do you think? Would you be for a time jump in the middle of the film?
     
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    Maybe a training sequence? A la Rocky Balboa and Ivan Drago? :p
     
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    The movies take place in the real world so a time jump will happen regardless when focusing on various characters in the movie.
     
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    I would be for the time jump if for no other reason to let every character and faction to prepare and "level up"
     
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    I'm ok with a time-jump straight after she gets into the training, as happens in most movies like that. In the trailer, she has her first hair style. Depending on what she's running towards we could see two lightsaber fights from Rey.
     
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    I think the time jump will be substantial though. Can you see a 1 or 2 year jump, which is pretty normal between films, just after her training?
     
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    Hm... interesting topic. (I first thought you asked if there would be time travelling in TLJ ;) )

    Thinking out loud (which is alwasy dangerous), IF there is a fast-forward squence in TLJ, it might perhaps go something like this...

    Film opens with Rey & Luke meeting, possibly followed shortly by some action (or else the opening would be very boring and expositional).
    We get a "time passes" montage showing Rey training (possibly including some book reading), Finn recovering, Han's funeral/Leia & Kylo struggling, Hux consolidating the First Order, Phasma recovering/burning stuff, Poe flying.
    [Fade to black]
    Opening Crawl
    "Star Wars Episode VIII -- The Last Jedi
    Two years has passed since the destruction of the New Republic's capital world..."
    Cool space shot
    An unknown female Resistance mechanic stumbles upon something that kicks off the plot of TLJ

    ...or something to this effect?

    Hm... nah.... it would be too extreme a move to mess with the structure in the penultimate film of the series.


    It would perhaps be more likely to get a "and then some time passed" squence between the first and second act, but even that might be too daring. I dunno, on the face of it doing a time skip looks very difficult to do within the established structure and tone of Star Wars saga films. I remain sceptical :)
     
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    I too remain skeptical, however after hearing that some insiders have seen a rough cut and described the movie as "different", it makes me think Rian Johnson may just have the guts to do something crazy. We've already had a Star Wars movie in Rogue One with a time jump from Jyn's childhood to adulthood. We've already had flashbacks or "force backs". With the drastic outfit changes of Luke and Rey, it's quite possible.
     
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    I think after Rey meets Luke and the the FO attacks the Resistance we could jump forward a bit to where the Resistance has a new base and Rey is a good bit into her training. Maybe.
     
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    I've been of the belief for a while now that TLJ was going to have a time jump (centering around Rey's training) but that is based on nothing, so who knows.
     
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    I think the aspect of time within a SW movie is always a tricky thing. The filmmakers don't particularly care to explain how much time elapses in a movie and rather tend to tell us after the fact or at least explain how long between movies time has passed. To me, I gather we will get the same. Time won't be something we're focused upon until after the movie.

    For example...how long did it take to get Ach-To? The movie makes it seem like a few minutes. But I gather it probably took a few hours, maybe even days in SW reality because based on the map, they probably had to make a few different jumps and we just saw the last of the jumps.

    Another example, the Falcon gets to the Rebel base in TFA and then in what seems like is 15 minutes the leadership meets and then starts the strike on Starkiller Base. But in reality, it probably was much longer than that. Snap had to do reconnaissance. This also means Rey was probably held captive for a a bit by Kylo before being questioned.
     
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    Time Sequence

    If They Do That, Here is How I See Things Going Down: (Red Coloring=Mini Scenes) (Green=Important Scenes)
    • They Show Rey and Luke Training Throughout 1/2 The Movie. (Where Rey's Parents and History are Revealed.)
    • Mini Battle Insues (Walkers are Present) (FO Victory)
    • (Next 2 Parts Take Up 1/4 of Movie)
    • TFO Discuss Strategies and Plans. (Where Snoke's Identity and History are Revealed.)
    • Resistance Begins Discussing Plans for Next Battle (Try To Rebound in Next Fight)
    • (End of Two Scenes)
    • During the last 1/4 of the movie, The Big Battle insues in Space. Leia is Killed (sacrifices herself for Finn & Poe) by Captain Phasma and a Stormtrooper Division. Luke and Rey Arrive and Engage Kylo and The Knights of Ren. All The Knights of Ren are killed but Luke sacrifices himself because Rey is in danger. Rey escapes with X-Wings accompanying her. The Finalizer is also seriously damaged.

    Explanation: Now obviously, The Time Sequence is Luke and Rey's Training. This is how I see TLJ going down, AS OF NOW!

    Let me know what you think!:D
     
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    I don't know...
    But, to tell the truth, I hope Luke and Rey won't spend half of the movie on Ahch to.

    Speaking of which and given what we know...
    what if Luke refuses to train Rey but they are forced to leave before act 1 ends?
    Then everything that has to happen.. happens
    and only along the way Luke decides to train her (the books we see in the trailer may have a part on this)
    Then the real training starts only at the end of the movie?

    What if - for example - the scene of Rey training with the lightsaber + Luke is endeed at the end of the movie and not at the beginnin?

    If I've understood well we've got sevaral "action sequences", at least 4

    The Resistance Ship under attack - scene of Phasma in the hangar and explotion near Poe's x wing
    Crait
    Another space battle Fleet vs Fleet (the scene of Finn infiltrated on a FO ship may be at this point and I guess that with Poe's line "it's now or never" too)
    Something on Ahch to, Luke+Rey vs KOR. It may be a vision, but still an action sequence is...
    The explotion on the casino planet... something happens there.... and it is again an action sequence.

    Maybe two of them may happen at the same time, but it's still too much...
    And it's hard (at least to me) to find too much time on Ahch to....

    Just a thought....
     
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    A lot of the training could be on Ach-To. Doesn't seem like they're leaving. Kinda like Luke and Yoda on Dagobah. Didn't spend half the film on it, but pretty darn close. ;)
     
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    Unless the entire film is real time, something like Russian Ark or 24. That's be... weird.
     
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    I think that if there is a time jump, it'll be through a vision where we may get a glimpse of the future but things will go back to where the narrative is currently at. I believe it will be similar to ESB where we don't get a full understanding of how much time Luke spent on Dagobah and how much time Han, Leia, Chewie and co. spent on Bespin. It could have been weeks the way the movie was edited (although I'm sure some of you will correct me on this).

    If there's gonna be a time jump, I'm guessing it will be in between the end of Ep. VIII and the start of Ep. IX.
     
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    wait what ?
     
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    A time jump makes sense, but I suspect there won't be a huge one. If anything it'd be training time jump.
     
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    "Real Time" is when a film's portrayal of time is exactly the same as the amount of time passing for the audience. You see it sort of play out in 24 (given the concept is 24 episodes an hour long apiece). Russian Ark is a film shot in what either is or appears to be a single shot.

    Anyway, I was just making a dumb joke, since any film not shown in real time would obviously have a "time jump". :p

    It's actually pretty fascinating how our brain accepts time skips in films so easily and often (most of the time people don't even notice them happening). But I digress.
     
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    Based on Rey's outfits? Nah. That would mean there were 87 time-jumps in Attack of the Clones alone.

    [​IMG]
     
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